QF Group possible Redundancy Numbers/Packages
The mining companies are requiring their workers in WA to be based in WA for the duration of this pandemic/border closures as otherwise they would be paying for a interstate worker's temporary accommodation costs for the duration of the emergency. That's because they aren't being allowed into the state for the duration of this emergency, as explained in the article.
Thread Starter
The categories of "exempt traveller" are set out in detail in the Directions. It is important that any person who is seeking to enter Western Australia reads and understands the categories of exempt traveller that are set out in the Directions. In summary, the categories include:
- FIFO workers, subject to requirements to isolate for 14 days at an approved location at their employer's expense.
A few FIFO workers may, as did the Qantas pilots who commuted to the Perth base for the 330 and 787. They didn't have to quarantine for 14 days though although some might say it felt like it at times when on a blankline.
Thread Starter
I have no doubt that FIFO is here to stay, but from the wa.gov.au:
The categories of "exempt traveller" are set out in detail in the Directions. It is important that any person who is seeking to enter Western Australia reads and understands the categories of exempt traveller that are set out in the Directions. In summary, the categories include:
A few FIFO workers may, as did the Qantas pilots who commuted to the Perth base for the 330 and 787. They didn't have to quarantine for 14 days though although some might say it felt like it at times when on a blankline.
The categories of "exempt traveller" are set out in detail in the Directions. It is important that any person who is seeking to enter Western Australia reads and understands the categories of exempt traveller that are set out in the Directions. In summary, the categories include:
- FIFO workers, subject to requirements to isolate for 14 days at an approved location at their employer's expense.
A few FIFO workers may, as did the Qantas pilots who commuted to the Perth base for the 330 and 787. They didn't have to quarantine for 14 days though although some might say it felt like it at times when on a blankline.
Many people from the East (I say a majority), who do FIFO right now are just forgoing the visit home to the East to avoid the 14 day quarantine. Some havent seen their families since February/March.
They are dealing with the hardships, and hoping that the WA Government will eventually come to its senses and adopt a more reasonable approach.
The commute from the East will return when the hard state border softens. And it will, with some indications in the local rag today indicating that there's a chance it might be sooner than people think.
Last edited by ExtraShot; 24th Sep 2020 at 07:23.
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sydney
Age: 43
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Each to their own view
But I think the changes to FIFO are way more permanent, WA Govt isn't mucking around , BHP has actioned it all
Qld Govt likely to do similar , keep the $$$ in the state
FIFO workers from NSW/Vic can't even get to WA atm even with 14 days quarantine now
The other impact is going to be when state borders do open many organisations in places like WA/Qld/SA will have their own
criteria over & above "state" criteria. This happened earlier in the year when borders were still more open ie: students of ABC school in Perth or ABC
electricity company in Qld , that if any of their people travelled to NSW/Vic they would have to self isolate at home for 14 days (when no Govt requirement to do so)
Expect this to happen again
But the real impact on domestic travel is going to be the decisions already made by Corporates, they are reluctant to let their own people into their
own workplaces, they aren't going to be travelling, Public Service even more cautious
Why do people hoard FF points ?
But I think the changes to FIFO are way more permanent, WA Govt isn't mucking around , BHP has actioned it all
Qld Govt likely to do similar , keep the $$$ in the state
FIFO workers from NSW/Vic can't even get to WA atm even with 14 days quarantine now
The other impact is going to be when state borders do open many organisations in places like WA/Qld/SA will have their own
criteria over & above "state" criteria. This happened earlier in the year when borders were still more open ie: students of ABC school in Perth or ABC
electricity company in Qld , that if any of their people travelled to NSW/Vic they would have to self isolate at home for 14 days (when no Govt requirement to do so)
Expect this to happen again
But the real impact on domestic travel is going to be the decisions already made by Corporates, they are reluctant to let their own people into their
own workplaces, they aren't going to be travelling, Public Service even more cautious
Why do people hoard FF points ?
But I think the changes to FIFO are way more permanent, WA Govt isn't mucking around
McGowan will get called in for 'tea & biccies' with the Minerals Council next year if he is still thinks he's El Presidente of a Sovereign State. No Mining Company wants a captive workforce.
Only having Pilbara workers Who live in WA long term? No access for those East Coast Covid infected scum! Yeah.....Nah. Wages will go through the roof. McGowan will he read the riot act by his Masters. Including Jabba.
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sydney
Age: 43
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
McGowan may not be perfect but from the East Coast , although a bit "stern" he seems to be consistent & steady
No jumping around we open when the rest of Australia opens, won't play favourites with different states etc - he said that from day one
The biggest threat I see to domestic travel is the ALP Socialist Left Govt(SLG) in Victoria and they will be receiving international arrivals again in November,
and yet again they will not be using the ADF. They will show the rest of Australia up, they will show you how to do it PC Melbournian style. The great man is already boasting about
a "Summer like no other" (got the you beaut tagline going) - I wonder what he has in mind. Apparently had quite a hissy fit when CMO said NSW had gold standard of contact tracing
In Melb it is very much the mad hatters tea party, the SLG believe they showed the rest of Australia up as they didn't compromise SL values , the key values
were social inclusion & diversity for Hotel Security & all security guards received diversity training, employment for marginalised foreign students achieved, contracts
awarded to security companies owned by minorities awarded. The quarantine results & outcomes to SLG just have no relevance , it's about the values and the process & the PC elements of the process were eye watering
Set back domestic travel by a couple of years & cost QF hundreds of millions, if not billions. Changes have occurred to how people work/travel & the market changes moves on, a lot of the damage is permanent. These guys will be responsible for any QF group pilot redundancies , QF management have nothing to do with it
Why oh why the Fed Govt would give the loony left in Vict another go at international quarantine - well I just don't know
No jumping around we open when the rest of Australia opens, won't play favourites with different states etc - he said that from day one
The biggest threat I see to domestic travel is the ALP Socialist Left Govt(SLG) in Victoria and they will be receiving international arrivals again in November,
and yet again they will not be using the ADF. They will show the rest of Australia up, they will show you how to do it PC Melbournian style. The great man is already boasting about
a "Summer like no other" (got the you beaut tagline going) - I wonder what he has in mind. Apparently had quite a hissy fit when CMO said NSW had gold standard of contact tracing
In Melb it is very much the mad hatters tea party, the SLG believe they showed the rest of Australia up as they didn't compromise SL values , the key values
were social inclusion & diversity for Hotel Security & all security guards received diversity training, employment for marginalised foreign students achieved, contracts
awarded to security companies owned by minorities awarded. The quarantine results & outcomes to SLG just have no relevance , it's about the values and the process & the PC elements of the process were eye watering
Set back domestic travel by a couple of years & cost QF hundreds of millions, if not billions. Changes have occurred to how people work/travel & the market changes moves on, a lot of the damage is permanent. These guys will be responsible for any QF group pilot redundancies , QF management have nothing to do with it
Why oh why the Fed Govt would give the loony left in Vict another go at international quarantine - well I just don't know
Last edited by Telfer86; 26th Sep 2020 at 03:49.
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Wellington
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
"Never in the history of PPrune threads has so much dribble come from one person over so many posts."
Are you are on a performance bonus Telfer? Written in your KPI's depending how much bs you write per post?
As for calling the Victorian Government mad hatters..pot calling the kettle is the only thing that comes to mind.
Could someone who actually has something insightful as to what is happening with VR/CR/ER please get this thread back on track...please
Are you are on a performance bonus Telfer? Written in your KPI's depending how much bs you write per post?
As for calling the Victorian Government mad hatters..pot calling the kettle is the only thing that comes to mind.
Could someone who actually has something insightful as to what is happening with VR/CR/ER please get this thread back on track...please
You beat me to it SG,
Yes, now that everyone here has proved to everybody here they more about wearing red ties, WA and FIFO, perhaps we could get back to,
“QF Group possible Redundancy Numbers/Packages”
Can anyone advise on the state of play re. ER, VR & EA?
Yes, now that everyone here has proved to everybody here they more about wearing red ties, WA and FIFO, perhaps we could get back to,
“QF Group possible Redundancy Numbers/Packages”
Can anyone advise on the state of play re. ER, VR & EA?
Last edited by Qanchor; 26th Sep 2020 at 10:10.
VR - Being worked through. Issues with the amount of training captains who express their interests. Worried it could have larger implications when the ramp up occurs. Confident all 188 will be accepted. Decision by Nov 7th.
EA - Anyone’s guess. Reduction in MGH is the main key to allow more to be stood up when the time comes. SH EA variations are also being discussed.
Evertonian
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
No haircut asked for yet.
I think we would be stupid to go backwards on the EBA.
The company will do what they want when they want.
Most of us have not worked much for the last 6 months.
If the Qantas group wants to wind up there low cost base airline so be it.
I think we would be stupid to go backwards on the EBA.
The company will do what they want when they want.
Most of us have not worked much for the last 6 months.
If the Qantas group wants to wind up there low cost base airline so be it.
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: BAO
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
ex ABC News: Qantas workers face the axe as COVID-19 grounding of flights.......
ex ABC News: 'Qantas workers face the axe as COVID-19 grounding of flights opens outsourcing loophole'-
Article link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-...-work/12692738
rgds
S28- BE
Article link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-...-work/12692738
rgds
S28- BE
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: BAO
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
ex ABC News: Qantas eight weeks away from running out of money at height of COVID-19
All go today.......
Article link here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-...virus/12710124
rgds
S28- BE
Article link here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-...virus/12710124
rgds
S28- BE