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Old 6th Sep 2020, 10:51
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Originally Posted by flyingfrenchman
Under already unfortunate circumstances what a way to finish a long career, scraping every last cent as you go out the door having lived the golden era of aviation and conditions, LH commands in their 20s and 30s with large super balances.
Sadly I don’t even think they will blink.
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 02:49
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Unfortunately, history shows that when the younger pilots reach the same age they will do exactly the same thing!
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 03:17
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Unfortunately, history shows that when the younger pilots reach the same age they will do exactly the same thing!
we'll still be FOs instead of 30yr capts
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 04:48
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Originally Posted by maggot
we'll still be FOs instead of 30yr capts
...and that is what they said when they were your age!
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 06:05
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...and that is what they said when they were your age!
at 20yrs in?
yeah, nah.
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 06:58
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Originally Posted by Obie
...and that is what they said when they were your age!
What rubbish. Before the pandemic, it was around 22 years until SH command. Before the lost decade- 2008-2018- it was 12 years.
I not going to get to get stuck in, but empathy was not a quality I saw a lot of in my time on the 4 engine fleets.
This thread had the highest BS factor of all time on Pprune- which really says something.
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 07:09
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Originally Posted by Obie
...and that is what they said when they were your age!
Of the five that we are talking about, the most junior joined in January ‘87, the others in 85/86 aged about 30. They were Captains* in under a decade. The last 23-25 years in wide body commands.

The youngest wide body line Captain today? 48. Initial command after 23 years.

(*Had they wanted it).
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 08:12
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The lost decade really!!! wait until end of the year you will lose a lot more than a decade. AJ has a plan to remain "competitive" with the leaner VA.
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 10:07
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
The lost decade really!!! wait until end of the year you will lose a lot more than a decade. AJ has a plan to remain "competitive" with the leaner VA.
So, Ragnor, you are obviously a board member or a mate of Mr Joyce, please enlighten us with the your wisdom of our future.
FUD..
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 12:33
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
The lost decade really!!! wait until end of the year you will lose a lot more than a decade. AJ has a plan to remain "competitive" with the leaner VA.
No doubt, which will involve increasing market share.

You don’t do that by parking jets, you do that by flying them. Hence I guess why the 717s have been redeployed.
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 20:23
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AJ has already said that we will have to remain competitive with what ever come of VA which will be known very soon. Came from his mouth a month ago on a town hall have a listen. I'm sure a increase in market share will be attempted but there is also few new players arising from the ashes of covid.
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 23:03
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
AJ has already said that we will have to remain competitive with what ever come of VA which will be known very soon. Came from his mouth a month ago on a town hall have a listen. I'm sure a increase in market share will be attempted but there is also few new players arising from the ashes of covid.
AJ is on record saying he expects QF Group to have 70% domestic market share post pandemic.

This has also been admitted by Paul Scurrah at the recent CAPA conference, where he said they would be exiting unprofitable routes and reducing market share.

https://www.afr.com/companies/transp...0200902-p55rl5
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 23:30
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Well I’m hopeful that 70% does come to fruition.

Will the punters have money to spend on air travel especially in Victoria the landscape has changed.
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Old 8th Sep 2020, 00:10
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
Well I’m hopeful that 70% does come to fruition.

Will the punters have money to spend on air travel especially in Victoria the landscape has changed.
Perhaps a travel voucher system (such as Tasmania) will help kick start the domestic tourism economy post pandemic.

Household saving has increased to 19.8% up from 6%. Yes there are those that have lost their jobs, but those that haven't have been stuck at home for the best part of a year and have cash to burn.

Given we are in the aviation industry we probably have a skewed view of the doom and gloom as we all personally know dozens of people that have lost their jobs, but there are many industries which have not been nearly as affected.

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Old 8th Sep 2020, 00:18
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
Well I’m hopeful that 70% does come to fruition.

Will the punters have money to spend on air travel especially in Victoria the landscape has changed.
Just also be very mindful that that extra market share is at the expensive of someone else’s livelihood.

Many of those effected would have been ideal candidates for Qantas, but took a moral stance on the options available at the time regarding the low cost operation which was hiring.
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Old 8th Sep 2020, 07:38
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Thumbs down

Many of those effected would have been ideal candidates for Qantas, but took a moral stance on the options available at the time regarding the low cost operation which was hiring.
and took a job at Virgin Blue by moral choice? Oh boy oh boy this is too good where's the Michael Jackson gif eating popcorn.


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Old 8th Sep 2020, 07:49
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Ba ha ha.... yes.. I was thinking the same thing


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Old 8th Sep 2020, 08:42
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Originally Posted by Blueskymine
Just also be very mindful that that extra market share is at the expensive of someone else’s livelihood.

Many of those effected would have been ideal candidates for Qantas, but took a moral stance on the options available at the time regarding the low cost operation which was hiring.
Funny.....funny stuff
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Old 8th Sep 2020, 08:58
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Originally Posted by Blueskymine
Many of those effected would have been ideal candidates for Qantas, but took a moral stance on the options available at the time regarding the low cost operation which was hiring.
Lol, I just took the first job that came up. That just happened to be Qantas.
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Old 8th Sep 2020, 09:04
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Originally Posted by Blueskymine
Many of those effected would have been ideal candidates for Qantas, but took a moral stance on the options available at the time regarding the low cost operation which was hiring.
hahahahahaha.

Jesus christ.
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