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Old 21st Jul 2020, 00:49
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
Those 7 we’re in individual contracts I believe, they have already been let go at the start of all this.
Why were pilots being hired on individual contracts?
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 00:57
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE
Why were pilots being hired on individual contracts?
Can’t be forced to join a union in NZ. If you’re not part of the Union, you can’t be a part of the collective agreement. Hence you’re put on an individual contract. For all intensive purposes, the contract is identical to the collective agreement.
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 01:05
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Originally Posted by chazwazza14
Can’t be forced to join a union in NZ. If you’re not part of the Union, you can’t be a part of the collective agreement. Hence you’re put on an individual contract. For all intensive purposes, the contract is identical to the collective agreement.
ahh, interesting.

So I guess those union fees really paid off for the NZ guys then
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 01:15
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE
ahh, interesting.

So I guess those union fees really paid off for the NZ guys then

I’ve got no idea about the JQ NZ situation, but if those rumours are true they sure did. Pretty interesting QF/JQ can get away with that though...
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 01:16
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
Those 7 we’re in individual contracts I believe, they have already been let go at the start of all this.
The redundancies have nothing to do with being on an individual contract.
The company has apparently come up with an optimised figure of approximately 11 crew per frame, which translates to an excess of 2 FO’s in Chc, and 5 in Auckland. Six Chc Captains are also forced to move to Akl. All part of the long term plan to “resize NZ bases”.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 00:40
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I am not sure why the consensus seems to be hanging onto provisions of the EBA going forward, it has been said at various levels of government that these are unprecedented times, and the travel industry has been hardest hit. If there was ever a time to terminate an EBA in exceptional circumstances for an airline, it would be now with the majority of the fleet grounded because of governmentent imposed restrictions which have no foreseeable end. If we could see the end date of this it would be different, that is not the case.

The public interest going forward is for two viable domestic airlines, which will require significant downsizing from the current size. Cuts would have to go across the board, head office, catering, ground support/engineering, cabin crew, and pilots.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 01:10
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Originally Posted by chazwazza14
For all intensive purposes,

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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 01:13
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Originally Posted by das Uber Soldat
Perhaps he was referring pacifically to renumeration.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 01:23
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pacifically ?



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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 02:40
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
pacifically ?


Sarcasm detector broken?

You missed "renumeration" too.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 02:40
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Somethink doesn't look right?

I've aksed around and no one has an answer
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 02:41
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Originally Posted by Going Nowhere
Somethink doesn't look right?

I've aksed around and no one has an answer
He gets it.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 05:14
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For all intensive purposes it's a mute point. Are we really going to correct everyones grammar in one foul swoop? Surely there are bigger issues, like our boarders for example. Your just wasting you're time.
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Originally Posted by mppgf
Borders is the word you are looking for and moot is the other one. And it's actually One fell swoop.


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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 05:44
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You missed "Intents and purposes" and "you're just wasting your time" I hope maths is your thing
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I'm chomping at the bit to see where this goes......
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 06:26
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A word of advise for you...
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 06:51
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Give Chazza et al a break.
It has been a deliberate policy of the Education Departments for at least the last 20 years ( 30 ? ) to undervalue History and Grammar.
Because policy is run by teachers.
And teachers think that rigorous learning , especially rote learning , is an expression of white privilege , post-colonial , Fascist , male-oppression......(insert grievance here)............
Not his fault really.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 07:21
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Did you just assume Chazza’s gender pronoun.
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Could of been a mistake?
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