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Old 20th Jul 2020, 01:56
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Exactly correct cloudsurfing, in the absence of a vaccine or full containment nation wide.

That would be being worked out as we speak. Those airframes in those bases with those personnel. The company will continue to consult it's employees as it's obligated to do.
Which leaves us with

VR no chance of returning to work, paid in full over a few months.
LWOP a chance of returning to work.
CR everyone else lesser chance of returning to work, paid in full over 5+ years.
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 03:52
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Originally Posted by cloudsurfng
When the time comes,you’ll either be in the right place or you won’t. The company will do what it wants, as it always does, and it will be allowed to.
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Look at the rhetoric from the government. ‘EA flexibility’.
best of luck to everyone. Out.
Yet again.

Touché.
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 04:31
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Originally Posted by Keg
I’m someone who learned about 20 years ago (and reinforced at various times since) that what is written on PPRUNE can have a direct impact on you in the workplace. People can choose freely to have their tantrums but they should do so understanding the potential impact that these can have elsewhere.

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There are several recent legal precedents of employers right to hold employees accountable for material posted behind a pseudonym.
Anonymity doesn’t really exist.
Simple rule that I learned long ago.
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 08:18
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No need to stick the boot in
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 09:00
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Originally Posted by Blueskymine
We know the companies position.

We know the associations position.

We know the short haul position.

We know the long haul position.

We know the junior and senior positions.

The rest will be up to the legals if it gets there.

As per the request from that room. That’s it from me on this thread. I’d suggest the genuine employees of the group do the same.
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 09:45
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How come J* NZ is almost up to full sked?
Govmunt help? Cheapest to operate?
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 10:14
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Originally Posted by Shot Nancy
How come J* NZ is almost up to full sked?
Govmunt help? Cheapest to operate?
Because there’s no COVID and no restrictions on travel in NZ maybe?

Two things we definitely havent achieved in Australia
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 10:29
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE
Because there’s no COVID and no restrictions on travel in NZ maybe?

Two things we definitely havent achieved in Australia
But it does show demand for air travel is returning once the problems have been dealt with.
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 10:57
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Sure does, loads are over 150 on all flights, only sectors affected are AKL-DUD with a reduced schedule. It will be a go 3+ Months before Australia gets to anything like NZ. Well done over there to them, they did what the gov asked and normality is returning.
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 11:49
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
Sure does, loads are over 150 on all flights, only sectors affected are AKL-DUD with a reduced schedule. It will be a go 3+ Months before Australia gets to anything like NZ. Well done over there to them, they did what the gov asked and normality is returning.
have to agree. Domestic travel in NZ is doing really well. Air NZ has had to bring back staff they had originally made redundant. Foran has admitted publicly that they have been surprised by the recovery of the domestic market.
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 11:56
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Originally Posted by kev2002
have to agree. Domestic travel in NZ is doing really well. Air NZ has had to bring back staff they had originally made redundant. Foran has admitted publicly that they have been surprised by the recovery of the domestic market.
meanwhile in Australia, Alan Joyce predicted 40% recovery by July and didn’t get close.

Not criticising, just interesting that one was overly optimistic, one overly pessimistic and they were both wrong!
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 12:41
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE
meanwhile in Australia, Alan Joyce predicted 40% recovery by July and didn’t get close.

Not criticising, just interesting that one was overly optimistic, one overly pessimistic and they were both wrong!

I think Victoria may have slightly got in the way of Mr Joyce’s predications. The inter state rules have been changing every day.

Well done to NZ...
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 12:44
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
Well done over there to them, they did what the gov asked and normality is returning.
So did we, then a low paid security guard, shagged someone in quarantine so they could go to 7-11 and then shared their cigarette lighter with their mates, and we are where we are....
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 13:11
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Originally Posted by Bundy Bear
I think Victoria may have slightly got in the way of Mr Joyce’s predications. The inter state rules have been changing every day.

Well done to NZ...
100%

I was thinking along the same lines as AJ too. No one was thinking there was a second wave just around the corner.

Being based in Melbourne, even as a JQ short haul pilot, I’m thinking that we’re in a similar boat to long haul now. Won’t really get back to work properly till a Vaccine is available in 12-18 months.
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 21:11
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
Sure does, loads are over 150 on all flights, only sectors affected are AKL-DUD with a reduced schedule. It will be a go 3+ Months before Australia gets to anything like NZ. Well done over there to them, they did what the gov asked and normality is returning.
Yet Qantas IR is still demanding 7 JQNZ redundancies???
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 22:20
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Well done over there to them, they did what the gov asked and normality is returning.
What they don't have in NZ is a bunch of moronic state governments. One border around the circumference of the islands.

Point scoring, looming elections, playing politics. Doing what Australia does best, sweet FA.
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 22:25
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So did we, then a low paid security guard, shagged someone in quarantine so they could go to 7-11 and then shared their cigarette lighter with their mates, and we are where we are....
What you have is an incompetent Chairman, beholden to the unions and factions, warned against the course of action that led to this debacle.
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 23:18
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Originally Posted by Visual_Approach
Great popcorn chat cheers fellas
Thanks Visual for the vote of confidence.......NZ is in a strong position but you never know........
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 23:24
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE
100%

No one was thinking there was a second wave just around the corner.
Who thought there wasn’t going to be a second wave. It’s happened in other countries. The medicos have been talking about it since the beginning. Most of the worst hit countries haven’t even come off their first wave yet. I just hope it’s not as bad and controlled better than the first time........VIC is showing the way :-(
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 00:07
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Originally Posted by Konyagi
Yet Qantas IR is still demanding 7 JQNZ redundancies???
Those 7 we’re in individual contracts I believe, they have already been let go at the start of all this.
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