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Old 17th Aug 2020, 01:21
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Originally Posted by blow.n.gasket View Post
How is Qantas going to ferry all the announced 787’s to the USA ?
How many crew are still current ?
With AUSTRALIAN border restrictions , how will they be able to requalify ?
Sims in Sydney and Melbourne .
Where are most of the airframes presently sitting ?
What sort of quarantine restrictions will be placed on ferry crew , there in the USA plus on return to Australia ?
Who is going to put their hand up for such a sh!t storm privilege ?
Plenty of crew exemptions for everything you have mentioned (no it doesn’t mean they will get them).
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 09:09
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.Having QF on your resume means you got to the top. It’s a small club, and in this country is the pinnacle of our commercial profession. Despite the naysayers who didn’t.
You're taking the pi55, right?
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 09:24
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You're taking the pi55, right?
He's been in cryosleep for a long time
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Old 19th Aug 2020, 07:08
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With the 2019-2020 yearly to be announced tomorrow, does anyone have any thoughts on AJ 3 year plan and what changes he will make? What reductions to crew and cabin crew will be made to all of the group in particular QF and Jetstar?

747, 380 787 Jetstar 787 maybe even 330 crew will be surplus to requirements then 737 and 320 how much surplus is there as there is no end in sight for domestic borders opening up.

Surely the 3 year plan announced in May will have changed and the crew numbers needed will have changed, also given a vaccine will be at least 12-18 months away Qantas will want to reduce cash burn even further to even survive past December 2021.
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Old 19th Aug 2020, 07:32
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also given a vaccine will be at least 12-18 months away
Where did you get that sort of timeline from?

https://theconversation.com/oxford-i...omising-141558

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...604-4/fulltext

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...in-brazil-cvd/

Looking like early 2021 which is four months away.
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Old 19th Aug 2020, 07:39
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
With the 2019-2020 yearly to be announced tomorrow, does anyone have any thoughts on AJ 3 year plan and what changes he will make? What reductions to crew and cabin crew will be made to all of the group in particular QF and Jetstar?

747, 380 787 Jetstar 787 maybe even 330 crew will be surplus to requirements then 737 and 320 how much surplus is there as there is no end in sight for domestic borders opening up.

Surely the 3 year plan announced in May will have changed and the crew numbers needed will have changed, also given a vaccine will be at least 12-18 months away Qantas will want to reduce cash burn even further to even survive past December 2021.
If you cared to read a newspaper, you would know that with today's announcement the Oxford vaccine could now be produced locally within 6 months or so.

Stage 3 trial results due in November, so its not inconceivable that if successful (as early results suggest it will be), the vaccine will be widely available in Australia by early 2021.

There is cause for cautious optimism.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...vid-19-vaccine

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Old 19th Aug 2020, 07:59
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With so much changing on a week by week basis why would Qantas make a decision now? Better to sit on their hands for a bit longer. Can always re-visit fleet/ crewing plans in early 2021 and adjust accordingly.
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Old 19th Aug 2020, 08:01
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Rangor has already told us he won’t have the vaccine.
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Old 19th Aug 2020, 08:10
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Listening to a professor on the Jim Wilson show this afternoon, he said that it takes up to 20 yrs to produce a vaccine however he mentioned there usually only a hand full of company's making them. With Covid-19 there is 160 companies trying to produce a vaccine which is unheard of, rightly so given what is at stake. 12-18 month time frame by the professor was a reference for production and distribution then administer the dose then waiting for it to be effective with in the population.

Greg Hunt this morning said it would be early 2021 even if the vaccine was successful. Early 2021 has not really been defined is it January or April!

https://www.greghunt.com.au/transcri...ben-fordham-3/
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Old 19th Aug 2020, 08:40
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
With the 2019-2020 yearly to be announced tomorrow, does anyone have any thoughts on AJ 3 year plan and what changes he will make? What reductions to crew and cabin crew will be made to all of the group in particular QF and Jetstar?

Surely the 3 year plan announced in May will have changed and the crew numbers needed will have changed,
No it won’t be as that is not what the 3 year plan is for. That plan was to deal with long term forecast beyond 3 years, and the crewing numbers required from mid-2022 onwards. Anything in the middle is to be dealt with via stand downs and LWOP. Reduced domestic demand over the next few months will not alter this. The long term surplus from 2023 onwards was the number of 747 crew and it appears maybe a slight few more, but this will be taken care of via VR, early retirement and long term LWOP.

IMO there will be little change announced tomorrow from the recovery plan announced in June (not May btw).

I’ve also noticed most of the time management tend to announce big changes when they’re ready to be announced, not wait until results day.


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Old 19th Aug 2020, 08:59
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Early 2021 has not really been defined is it January or April!
Well one is four months away and the other is seven months away, so neither is...

...12-18 months away
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Old 19th Aug 2020, 12:03
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Oh for f%#k sake,,,,, straight from the source, "IF" the vaccine is successful (meets benchmark criteria) we will know by the end of 2020, mass production can begin around April 2021, it will then take 12 months before sufficient numbers have been vaccinated, before restrictions can be lifted completely.
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Old 19th Aug 2020, 12:37
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Vaccine is a long way off. 6 months ago, 18 months was very optimistic. I don’t think anything has changed.

in computer speak, a vaccine is vapourware.
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Old 19th Aug 2020, 23:40
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
With the 2019-2020 yearly to be announced tomorrow, does anyone have any thoughts on AJ 3 year plan and what changes he will make? What reductions to crew and cabin crew will be made to all of the group in particular QF and Jetstar?

747, 380 787 Jetstar 787 maybe even 330 crew will be surplus to requirements then 737 and 320 how much surplus is there as there is no end in sight for domestic borders opening up.

Surely the 3 year plan announced in May will have changed and the crew numbers needed will have changed, also given a vaccine will be at least 12-18 months away Qantas will want to reduce cash burn even further to even survive past December 2021.
"Recent developments in Victoria and the reimposition of some border restrictions in other parts of Australia are not expected to have a material impact on the delivery of the three-year plan."

Straight from today's profit announcement
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Old 19th Aug 2020, 23:41
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Originally Posted by Xeptu View Post
Oh for f%#k sake,,,,, straight from the source, "IF" the vaccine is successful (meets benchmark criteria) we will know by the end of 2020, mass production can begin around April 2021, it will then take 12 months before sufficient numbers have been vaccinated, before restrictions can be lifted completely.
What source??
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 01:04
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE View Post
"Recent developments in Victoria and the reimposition of some border restrictions in other parts of Australia are not expected to have a material impact on the delivery of the three-year plan."

Straight from today's profit announcement
Of course- they are going to remain upbeat to the shareholders and public.

They are just like everyone else- hoping for the best (“our 3 year plan is unchanged” & “5h!t this vaccine better work!”) but in the background they are planning for the worst (“where are we going to slash next to save the company?”)


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Old 20th Aug 2020, 01:26
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Of course- they are going to remain upbeat to the shareholders and public.

They are just like everyone else- hoping for the best (“our 3 year plan is unchanged” & “5h!t this vaccine better work!”) but in the background they are planning for the worst (“where are we going to slash next to save the company?”)
Yes, of course.

But I was countering Ragnor's hypothesis that an announcement would be made today regarding a changing of the 3 year plan.

I'm sure they're war gaming many scenarios.
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 01:29
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And getting ready to deliver pineapples to more staff and crew.

That means we’ll need to reinvent parts of our business to succeed.
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 01:44
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 02:09
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Mainline Cabin Crew with an EBA under negotiation have already been presented with a fairly decent list of productivity and efficiency claims from management.
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