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Old 20th Jul 2020, 23:20
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Well done over there to them, they did what the gov asked and normality is returning.
What they don't have in NZ is a bunch of moronic state governments. One border around the circumference of the islands.

Point scoring, looming elections, playing politics. Doing what Australia does best, sweet FA.
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Old 20th Jul 2020, 23:25
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So did we, then a low paid security guard, shagged someone in quarantine so they could go to 7-11 and then shared their cigarette lighter with their mates, and we are where we are....
What you have is an incompetent Chairman, beholden to the unions and factions, warned against the course of action that led to this debacle.
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 00:18
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Originally Posted by Visual_Approach View Post
Great popcorn chat cheers fellas
Thanks Visual for the vote of confidence.......NZ is in a strong position but you never know........
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 00:24
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE View Post
100%

No one was thinking there was a second wave just around the corner.
Who thought there wasnít going to be a second wave. Itís happened in other countries. The medicos have been talking about it since the beginning. Most of the worst hit countries havenít even come off their first wave yet. I just hope itís not as bad and controlled better than the first time........VIC is showing the way :-(
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 01:07
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Originally Posted by Konyagi View Post
Yet Qantas IR is still demanding 7 JQNZ redundancies???
Those 7 weíre in individual contracts I believe, they have already been let go at the start of all this.
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 01:49
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
Those 7 weíre in individual contracts I believe, they have already been let go at the start of all this.
Why were pilots being hired on individual contracts?
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 01:57
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE View Post
Why were pilots being hired on individual contracts?
Canít be forced to join a union in NZ. If youíre not part of the Union, you canít be a part of the collective agreement. Hence youíre put on an individual contract. For all intensive purposes, the contract is identical to the collective agreement.
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 02:05
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Originally Posted by chazwazza14 View Post
Canít be forced to join a union in NZ. If youíre not part of the Union, you canít be a part of the collective agreement. Hence youíre put on an individual contract. For all intensive purposes, the contract is identical to the collective agreement.
ahh, interesting.

So I guess those union fees really paid off for the NZ guys then
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 02:15
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE View Post
ahh, interesting.

So I guess those union fees really paid off for the NZ guys then

Iíve got no idea about the JQ NZ situation, but if those rumours are true they sure did. Pretty interesting QF/JQ can get away with that though...
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Old 21st Jul 2020, 02:16
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
Those 7 weíre in individual contracts I believe, they have already been let go at the start of all this.
The redundancies have nothing to do with being on an individual contract.
The company has apparently come up with an optimised figure of approximately 11 crew per frame, which translates to an excess of 2 FOís in Chc, and 5 in Auckland. Six Chc Captains are also forced to move to Akl. All part of the long term plan to ďresize NZ basesĒ.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 01:40
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I am not sure why the consensus seems to be hanging onto provisions of the EBA going forward, it has been said at various levels of government that these are unprecedented times, and the travel industry has been hardest hit. If there was ever a time to terminate an EBA in exceptional circumstances for an airline, it would be now with the majority of the fleet grounded because of governmentent imposed restrictions which have no foreseeable end. If we could see the end date of this it would be different, that is not the case.

The public interest going forward is for two viable domestic airlines, which will require significant downsizing from the current size. Cuts would have to go across the board, head office, catering, ground support/engineering, cabin crew, and pilots.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 02:10
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Originally Posted by chazwazza14 View Post
For all intensive purposes,

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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 02:13
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Originally Posted by das Uber Soldat View Post
Perhaps he was referring pacifically to renumeration.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 02:23
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pacifically ?



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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 03:40
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom View Post
pacifically ?


Sarcasm detector broken?

You missed "renumeration" too.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 03:40
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Somethink doesn't look right?

I've aksed around and no one has an answer
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 03:41
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Originally Posted by Going Nowhere View Post
Somethink doesn't look right?

I've aksed around and no one has an answer
He gets it.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 06:14
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For all intensive purposes it's a mute point. Are we really going to correct everyones grammar in one foul swoop? Surely there are bigger issues, like our boarders for example. Your just wasting you're time.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 06:34
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Originally Posted by mppgf View Post
Borders is the word you are looking for and moot is the other one. And it's actually One fell swoop.


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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 06:44
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You missed "Intents and purposes" and "you're just wasting your time" I hope maths is your thing
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