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Old 23rd Oct 2020, 13:32
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737 always going to be the senior fleet!
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 17:21
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Selling all a380s and a330s
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 00:27
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Selling all a380s and a330s
some first post eh
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 00:33
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I think he’s talking about his model collection
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 01:04
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If the Ď78í was your Ďdestinyí then I guess QF selling all their other LH aircraft would be a good thing. Still sounds like rubbish though, ainít no one buying a used (or new) A380.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 01:13
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Originally Posted by destiny78 View Post
Selling all a380s and a330s
I believe all 380s have been paid for. Not sure about the 330s.

380 resale value is worthless, so no point in getting rid of them. Might as well keep them in desert a for a few years, when numbers pick up just convert them into 550+ seat high density config A/C and send them on sub 10hr flights to Asia. Well thatís what Iíd do.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 01:41
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Can't see them selling much more than they already have. The A380s will have no buyers apart from parts breakers, who do not pay a premium and will have too much supply for the next few years anyway. A330s have been oversupplied for the last couple of years, and with AA retiring the type, should be even moreso. Potential upside now that the freighter market is running hot and the conversions are getting out there, but that doesn't make the market much better. Besides, with no debt or lease payments on most of the A330 fleet, plus being able to carry a little freight, they will be cheaper to run than 787s on longer domestic and Asia runs, once the latter gets up and running.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 06:12
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26,000 Australians registered to return to Australia.
PM has announced his goal is to get them home by Christmas.
14 weeks till Christmas.

Could be a busy end to the year. Hope the training department is ready to go.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 10:18
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That's 1860 per week, just over 6 B787s or one flight per day assuming they're full, obviously more required if social distancing is employed onboard. Number are limited by quarantine capacity on arrival but should be manageable if spread countrywide.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 13:59
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Originally Posted by Fujiroll76 View Post
26,000 Australians registered to return to Australia.
PM has announced his goal is to get them home by Christmas.
14 weeks till Christmas.

Could be a busy end to the year. Hope the training department is ready to go.
The PM is working the propaganda machine brilliantly. The 6 flights to Darwhine are not a scratch on the issue. Only 172 on the first one???

The only fix is fixing the quarantine problem, then allow all airlines flying in at least an 80% load factor and problem solved.

Far to easy and doesnít have the headline QF saves the day. Don't get me wrong Iím all for QF flying, many mates there, I just donít fall for the political bullshite.

Many more ways to solve the problem!
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 18:51
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Give all the flying to QF. I donít want Asia airlines especially ones from China getting 80% of anything.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 20:43
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Yes only 172. They have to block out business class to provide a Covid barrier jut aft of doors two and then between doors 1 and 2 as rest area that is socially distanced.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 00:39
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The entire value of the A380 Fleet including parts and spares has been written off. Itís not coming back.
The ex head of Training and Checking on the Project last night spelled it out clearly.
Itís not ever coming back.
If Joyce and company hadnít spend billions buying back shares at the top of the market then perhaps there would be some money to do something with to replace them cheaply. Unlikely given the epic debt levels Qantas are now saddled with.
Noticed Joyce was awarded with plenty of share options at the AGM.
Anyone else get any? Or just a stand down letter?
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 02:54
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Originally Posted by FightDeck View Post
The entire value of the A380 Fleet including parts and spares has been written off. It’s not coming back.
The ex head of Training and Checking on the Project last night spelled it out clearly.
It’s not ever coming back.
He did? I must have misheard him. That's not to say you'll eventually be right or wrong but I don't believe he said or even implied that in the show.
Either way, I'm sure I've done my last 380 takeoff and landing…..

As for the rest. Yes; the AGM only served to amplify the lack of leadership from senior management.

It amuses me that those touting the 'wonderful' culture of the Virgin staff are the same one's who now declare that Scurrah was too close to the unions and thus the staff and he had to go. You cant have both a CEO who has a poor, adversarial relationship with his staff and an excellent service culture from those same staff.

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Old 27th Oct 2020, 07:48
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The cost alone to reactive after sitting idle for 4-5 years would be eye watering. All for, what, one last final run to 2030, perhaps 5 years?

They will be parted out. Certainly is many upsides to throwing away the keys. Those engineering bills in the last 5 years of this decade can now be avoided.

They are even parting out 07/08 build A320s at the moment. Alaska are returning itís Virgin America machines early for coke cans.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 08:37
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
Give all the flying to QF. I donít want Asia airlines especially ones from China getting 80% of anything.
I'd like to add QATAR Airways to your list please.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 11:32
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If the demand returns by 2023/24, the A380s will return. If demand doesn’t the jets won’t. None of us know the answer to that- including Joyce.

The real question is over what to do with the A380 crew in the interim.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 17:39
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I wonder if Sydney Bus is respecting their seniority for North Shore routes, weekends off and overtime?
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 22:21
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From what I understand, AJ doesnít really appreciate the resources required to re activate an aircraft such as the A380 after long term storage. The costs associated with pilot training as well. How many current A380 crew will still be there in three years? Getting the trainers back up to speed?
Thats just the Flight Ops side of things!
If the thing isnít planned back by the end of next year well just forget about it!
Wish it was different though.
I wonder if the new roof at Longreach can be jacked up a little?
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 22:27
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There’s a plan being looked at for currency issues and the consequences of crew being uncurrent for periods exceeding 12 months is starting to be pushed up the chain. I’m not sure there will be much movement on this before the new year but it is being looked at. The bones are there already, it just needs fleshing out a bit more. I suspect once the trigger is pulled on VR (or not) they’ll start turning their minds to such things.
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