Airlines too pessimistic about air travel recovery: merged threads
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Why not? Thats what "flatten the curve" was all about wasn't it? An acknowledgement that some deaths were inevitable in vulnerable communities - somewhere in there we got railroaded into "elimination", like it was an actual achievable outcome. (maybe something to do with the BS numbers out of UCol London....)
'Flattening the curve' is in efforts to reduce peak cases to ensure ICU bed and ventilator availability for severe cases.
Australia sought to suppress the virus, not eliminate it (like NZ).
People are very happy to appear to have a heart. While they can freeze their mortgage, have jobkeeper and various levels of support.
When it all stops, the mortgage is due and the money has run out, there will be hell to pay. the oldies will be a sacrifice they’re willing to make and all talk of renaming Victoria or Queensland will be quickly forgotten. Coon cheese will be a luxury. And a national treasure.
When it all stops, the mortgage is due and the money has run out, there will be hell to pay. the oldies will be a sacrifice they’re willing to make and all talk of renaming Victoria or Queensland will be quickly forgotten. Coon cheese will be a luxury. And a national treasure.
The only one of those I got was using my own super.
Im relatively happy with the situation in Aus and NZ given the hand that was dealt.
Would you mind coming over and painting my house with your broad brush Blue Sky? Not all of us can’t see past our own predicament...
Im relatively happy with the situation in Aus and NZ given the hand that was dealt.
Would you mind coming over and painting my house with your broad brush Blue Sky? Not all of us can’t see past our own predicament...
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Hysterical hyperbole Oz, I don't want governments making policy decisions based on my grandma. There is an opportunity cost to every decision, acknowledging that ALL factors need be considered, and ALL lives - both right now (you know, the politically expedient, vote grabbing ones), and in the future, are important. And for all the "go hard-ness", we STILL have 400k deaths. Seems like almost it was inevitable...
Inevitable?
Australia and NZ less than 140 dead. Terrible but manageable cost to economy.
USA alone over 120,000 dead. Terrible but manageable? cost to Economy. ( Actually my own opinion on the US is it is going to be catastrophic and it is only just beginning for them now).
I think there is some way in this to control your own destiny. Easier for this part of the world admittedly.
I do think it is time to open the domestic borders but Victoria will need some special consideration and shows what happens when citizens show ill discipline.
Australia and NZ less than 140 dead. Terrible but manageable cost to economy.
USA alone over 120,000 dead. Terrible but manageable? cost to Economy. ( Actually my own opinion on the US is it is going to be catastrophic and it is only just beginning for them now).
I think there is some way in this to control your own destiny. Easier for this part of the world admittedly.
I do think it is time to open the domestic borders but Victoria will need some special consideration and shows what happens when citizens show ill discipline.
Inevitable?
Australia and NZ less than 140 dead. Terrible but manageable cost to economy.
USA alone over 120,000 dead. Terrible but manageable? cost to Economy. ( Actually my own opinion on the US is it is going to be catastrophic and it is only just beginning for them now).
I think there is some way in this to control your own destiny. Easier for this part of the world admittedly.
I do think it is time to open the domestic borders but Victoria will need some special consideration and shows what happens when citizens show ill discipline.
Australia and NZ less than 140 dead. Terrible but manageable cost to economy.
USA alone over 120,000 dead. Terrible but manageable? cost to Economy. ( Actually my own opinion on the US is it is going to be catastrophic and it is only just beginning for them now).
I think there is some way in this to control your own destiny. Easier for this part of the world admittedly.
I do think it is time to open the domestic borders but Victoria will need some special consideration and shows what happens when citizens show ill discipline.
Where do you begin.
Opening up too early after going softly. We are now seeing states into 2nd waves. Florida, Arizona, Nevada.
General public disorder, a break down in law and order. Seattle, Minasotta, Atlanta, New York...
Large scale public protests in Covid areas.
A commander in chief who is running rallies ( 7 of the event organisers had tested positive) and saying they should reduce testing because it keeps showing people have Covid?( I’ve actually liked some of the things Trump has done in the past but the longer it goes on the more he has lost the plot). I mean he even bought the military out for crowd control?
All they have achieved is a bad economic downturn but not much in return for it and now seemingly giving up on any attempt to manage it...in my opinion.
To keep it aviation related, how are we ever going to open up our borders to the US anytime in the next year. The UK and US have bought the most international cases of Covid to Aus. If you are the PM, what do you do now?
Opening up too early after going softly. We are now seeing states into 2nd waves. Florida, Arizona, Nevada.
General public disorder, a break down in law and order. Seattle, Minasotta, Atlanta, New York...
Large scale public protests in Covid areas.
A commander in chief who is running rallies ( 7 of the event organisers had tested positive) and saying they should reduce testing because it keeps showing people have Covid?( I’ve actually liked some of the things Trump has done in the past but the longer it goes on the more he has lost the plot). I mean he even bought the military out for crowd control?
All they have achieved is a bad economic downturn but not much in return for it and now seemingly giving up on any attempt to manage it...in my opinion.
To keep it aviation related, how are we ever going to open up our borders to the US anytime in the next year. The UK and US have bought the most international cases of Covid to Aus. If you are the PM, what do you do now?
"General public disorder, a break down in law and order. Seattle, Minasotta, Atlanta, New York.."
if you're talking about Black Lives Matter demonstrations it has nothing to do with COVID
if you're talking about Black Lives Matter demonstrations it has nothing to do with COVID
You mean the BLM demonstrations and other groups protesting and gathering in larger numbers (including political rallies) not adhering to social distancing and personal hygiene has nothing to do with Covid and it’s spread? Then by your logic it must be helping control it?
