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Old 21st Dec 2020, 07:45
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The thread title is now so wrong. I rename it to "Only one border must close" .Yes, that's right. We didn't invent the virus here. It arrived by air or sea. Australia is an island, so in the national interests we just now need to bite the bullet and stop all international passenger flights. All of them. No more tourists, no more repatriations, no more incoming pax or transiting aircrew from anywhere, period. I'm appalled that the new highly contagious virulent strain from the UK has now been detected in Australia. Whereas the EU is already stopping UK flights, Australia is wide open. Enough. Don't let them depart or turn them back midair.
Any links to the virulent, highly contagious UK strain being found here in Oz. First time I have heard it mentioned.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 07:47
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Just strayed onto this thread and I am honestly in an absolute shock! Are all Ozzys gripped with fear or is it just a special bunch here? Is the whole island going insane? Did anyone tell u that this is not an ebola outbreak?
There are tens of thousands of cases every day in europe, and the live goes on (though stupidely restricted). Most my friends and I including families have had it, and all that has happened were headaches, some had fever, kids absolutely nothing. Yes, it can be dangerous for some, just like numerous other diseases.
For how long are u willing to stop your lives? You really think u can outsmart such a virus by isolation? And what if u get other strains? Covid 21, 22, 23...? How long can your economy idle and your government print more money to compensate for sitting still? Is freedom to choose just an empty word now?
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 07:57
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Kerry Chant said it this morning in her brief
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 08:19
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Originally Posted by Trampdave
Just strayed onto this thread and I am honestly in an absolute shock! Are all Ozzys gripped with fear or is it just a special bunch here? Is the whole island going insane? Did anyone tell u that this is not an ebola outbreak?
There are tens of thousands of cases every day in europe, and the live goes on (though stupidely restricted). Most my friends and I including families have had it, and all that has happened were headaches, some had fever, kids absolutely nothing. Yes, it can be dangerous for some, just like numerous other diseases.
For how long are u willing to stop your lives? You really think u can outsmart such a virus by isolation? And what if u get other strains? Covid 21, 22, 23...? How long can your economy idle and your government print more money to compensate for sitting still? Is freedom to choose just an empty word now?
Think us and our economy are doing better than Sweden by a factor of X.
Certainly better than Britain and the USA.
Glad you got it and zero basically effects - How was the flight in the US recently? about to get tested I hear.

Sounds like a lovely flight for the rest of the pax while 3 doing CPR.

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Old 21st Dec 2020, 08:43
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What will it take. If you’re stuck over seas well sorry it’s time we look after the mother land. No more extensions for diplomats apranetly zoom is awesome movie stars well you’re lower than the scum on my feet you can’t wait. Time to look after the greater good Australia. I really wish Gladys take the strong approach and stop international arrivals.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 08:44
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Originally Posted by benttrees
Kerry Chant said it this morning in her brief
Thanks. Just had a link pop up on my news feed. Who says Google is not monitoring what we say and write.

Not something we need. Article stated, Chant refused to say whether the people with the UK strain were in hotel quarantine.

Why is information being withheld? I get a feeling that state and federal politicians and their advisors are withholding a lot of information.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 08:58
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Limited international arrivals, as we have now, should not be a problem.

IF handled correctly.

Turns out, somewhat surprisingly, they are not being handled correctly.

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Old 21st Dec 2020, 09:00
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Originally Posted by Trampdave
Just strayed onto this thread and I am honestly in an absolute shock! Are all Ozzys gripped with fear or is it just a special bunch here? Is the whole island going insane? Did anyone tell u that this is not an ebola outbreak?
There are tens of thousands of cases every day in europe, and the live goes on (though stupidely restricted). Most my friends and I including families have had it, and all that has happened were headaches, some had fever, kids absolutely nothing. Yes, it can be dangerous for some, just like numerous other diseases.
For how long are u willing to stop your lives? You really think u can outsmart such a virus by isolation? And what if u get other strains? Covid 21, 22, 23...? How long can your economy idle and your government print more money to compensate for sitting still? Is freedom to choose just an empty word now?
Yes mate, most on this forum are a special kind..

We are nothing more than scared school kids, and we’re screwed unless these vaccines do the trick...

It’s what happens when you’ve been a nanny state for so long, you just do what Mummy tells you “to stay safe”.

I used to be proud to say I was an Australian - now it’s a tad embarrassing.. we’re a bunch of sheep..
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 09:26
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You have 48 hours to produce your licence in Queensland. You should carry it with you, you do not have to. Reference is s.58(3) of the Police Powers Responsibilities Act.
e medicare card or passport is all that's required. Don't have to provide an address. This nonsense has gone on way too long.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 09:28
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist
Yes mate, most on this forum are a special kind..

We are nothing more than scared school kids, and we’re screwed unless these vaccines do the trick...

It’s what happens when you’ve been a nanny state for so long, you just do what Mummy tells you “to stay safe”.

I used to be proud to say I was an Australian - now it’s a tad embarrassing.. we’re a bunch of sheep..
luckily guns are strill legal. I'm getting a big one for Xmas. Watch out.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 10:03
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Are all Ozzys gripped with fear or is it just a special bunch here?
Dude, it's pathetic. You should live amongst this embarrassment. You should have seen the airports and highways, it was like armageddon. Pathetic and embarrassing.

The worst group are the boomers, petrified ninnies, their parents would be disgusted.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 10:11
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I've clicked on numerous surveys and it seems 90% want a lockdown to occur in Sydney to stop this latest spread.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 10:20
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Originally Posted by Bodie1
Dude, it's pathetic. You should live amongst this embarrassment. You should have seen the airports and highways, it was like armageddon. Pathetic and embarrassing.

The worst group are the boomers, petrified ninnies, their parents would be disgusted.
while Delta is now flying Americans to EU without restrictions(they might have to wear a mask) & no quarantine. Delta looking to do the same to Asia.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 17:29
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Originally Posted by Bodie1
Dude, it's pathetic. You should live amongst this embarrassment. You should have seen the airports and highways, it was like armageddon. Pathetic and embarrassing.

The worst group are the boomers, petrified ninnies, their parents would be disgusted.
Us ‘ Boomers’ are not so keen on seeing Australia turn into the USA or the UK.. with thousands of deaths. But that’s just us. ( or me).
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 18:57
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One things we can agree on. We are not Australian, we are not in this together we are more individual than ever our states divided by an imaginary line each having its own set of rules a federal goverment that’s totally powerless which has really only been realized to us with the outbreak of this pandemic. Some what ashamed on how other Australians are treating other Australians. If you’re in Aviation, tourism or hospitality be prepared for these open close borders which will be against NSW mostly as the risk is higher due to higher international arrivals When Victoria gets its next community case I hope McIdiot and the rest of them lock them out just to see Dan smug face then.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 20:01
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I am very happy to be in Oz, where 20 cases make news and 1 death is a headline. Not like Europe or Trumptown with 300,000 dead and tens of thousands more cases every day, hospitals loaded to the max, medical staff run off their feet.

In regional QLD, no lockdowns, no cases, and back in April, no toilet paper. But all good now, only difference is, no tourists.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 20:12
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Originally Posted by Trampdave
There are tens of thousands of cases every day in europe, and the live goes on (though stupidely restricted).

How long can your economy idle and your government print more money to compensate for sitting still? Is freedom to choose just an empty word now?
You’d be hard pressed to get many Aussies (pilots included who want borders open) to agree with you that the UK strategy has been better.

Right now the figures say our economy is doing much better than Europe and our hospitals have spare capacity.

Not saying all this to be smug, just acknowledging we have got lucky with our geographical position and mining resources propping up the economy, and yes it can all come crashing down overnight.

Thoughts with everyone doing it tough around the world, hope you can have a good Christmas under the circumstances.



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Old 21st Dec 2020, 20:26
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
One things we can agree on. We are not Australian, we are not in this together we are more individual than ever our states divided by an imaginary line each having its own set of rules a federal goverment that’s totally powerless which has really only been realized to us with the outbreak of this pandemic. Some what ashamed on how other Australians are treating other Australians. If you’re in Aviation, tourism or hospitality be prepared for these open close borders which will be against NSW mostly as the risk is higher due to higher international arrivals When Victoria gets its next community case I hope McIdiot and the rest of them lock them out just to see Dan smug face then.
That may well happen but i dont believe borders are being closed because it makes the premier of another state feel good.
Why is it that NSW is still allowing gatherings of 300 people & still only recommending masks.
The leading infection experts are still trying to make sense of these 2 decisions so in reality the NSW premier is really her own worst enemy right now despite having done an outstanding job over many many months.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 21:45
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
One things we can agree on. We are not Australian, we are not in this together we are more individual than ever our states divided by an imaginary line each having its own set of rules a federal goverment that’s totally powerless which has really only been realized to us with the outbreak of this pandemic. Some what ashamed on how other Australians are treating other Australians. If you’re in Aviation, tourism or hospitality be prepared for these open close borders which will be against NSW mostly as the risk is higher due to higher international arrivals When Victoria gets its next community case I hope McIdiot and the rest of them lock them out just to see Dan smug face then.
I think Dan is a moron of the highest order. The clusterf*vck in Victoria was caused by incompetence, a lack of oversight and since then there has been little ownership of the mistakes and lie after lie.

But I don’t disagree with him closing the border to Sydney in the SHORT term- Melburnians don’t deserve another lockdown under his regime. I’ll disagree if he pushes for 28 days no community transmission in re opening, that will take months.


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Old 21st Dec 2020, 21:50
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Any way they're closed 250 million lost to QLD alone is estimated, QLD to their credit have indicated an end date to revisit the open back up day being 8th January at the earliest. What are the other states going to do? SA, VIC NT and TAS don't have a plan yet WA well mcidiot will wait until March I suspect. By comparison to size SA recent Parafield was much worse by percentage other states except WA seem to open quickly to SA. yesterday 15 (0.041899% positive from test conducted) from 38,500 test is a huge turn out best in the country to date.

As for mask, well Glayds is relying on everyone being accountable and not making the mask mandatory this has worked so far, however, could it have prevented this Avalon outbreak who knows as patient zero can not be identified but suspicions is it was an international arrival hence mask wouldn't have mattered as this person should have been isolating anyway. As of this morning international crew are going 1 of 2 government hotels instead of going to 1 of 22 so this is good start on fixing that hole in the cheese. Next weak link is now international exemptions allowing ppl to isolate at home.
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