All borders to reopen.
So Sydney is shut out from the rest of ‘Australia’ because of two self entitled boomers. Just another way that generation has f@&ked this country. Well done dickheads you should be in prison.
We then need to wait for weeks of zero transmission until the states open the doors again. It is now February.
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We can only hope the outbreak has been contained to NSW otherwise we will be back to the skeleton schedules. It further erodes people confidence to book trips when these sudden outbreaks occur.
Joshy might want to get his revisit the maths from last week
Joshy might want to get his revisit the maths from last week
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And once again Aviation cops the brunt. My employer will lose half its capacity across its network from this. Thousands back on stand down for who knows how long.
We then need to wait for weeks of zero transmission until the states open the doors again. It is now February.
We then need to wait for weeks of zero transmission until the states open the doors again. It is now February.
Gladys and Hazzard have said there will be outbreaks along the way so NSW has not let its guard down and was prepared. WA is not prepared and ran for the hills on the first sniff. The other states for the first time I agree closing to SY but I hope they don’t close for months if the numbers settle by end of the yr.
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because of two self entitled boomers.
And you're blaming the wrong boomers (or gen x'ers) for the shutdowns.
"What we know is that this sequence from this strain that is associated with this cluster is most closely linked to a returned traveller from overseas who arrived in the country on 1st December. It is important to know that we don't know how common that is in Australia. Obviously we are testing all of the returning travellers from overseas and we are accessing international databases to get some idea. But you can imagine some countries like the US, gene sequencing isn't their priority given the number of cases they have.
"There is no-one else we have identified that could be the source. At the moment we are forensically looking at all of the journeys of that individual to see if there were any points associated with it. I think I spoke at my press conference yesterday that we have been testing in the vicinity of that person in terms of cleaners or anyone that might have cleaned a room after the person left - [we are taking] the upmost precaution to just check whether they could have been the source. Can I just say, there is an intensive investigation under way and, while I really do want to find the source, it may be that this is going to be a challenge beyond us. But we are doing everything we can.
"There is no-one else we have identified that could be the source. At the moment we are forensically looking at all of the journeys of that individual to see if there were any points associated with it. I think I spoke at my press conference yesterday that we have been testing in the vicinity of that person in terms of cleaners or anyone that might have cleaned a room after the person left - [we are taking] the upmost precaution to just check whether they could have been the source. Can I just say, there is an intensive investigation under way and, while I really do want to find the source, it may be that this is going to be a challenge beyond us. But we are doing everything we can.
To me, it's either someone who is allowed to quarantine at home as part of their normal duties, or some boomer who bought their way out of quarantine and in doing so, thought the rest of the rules didn't apply to them.
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WA is not prepared and ran for the hills on the first sniff.
Premier Mark McGowan says almost 2000 people presented at clinics on Thursday, about four times the usual daily number.Source
There were two people, a 60 year old and a 70 year old, who had symptoms, got tested, were ordered to quarantine and didn’t. Instead they went on a tour of the northern beaches including the Avalon rsl and bowlo. This has been well documented.
i accept that how they contracted it is still a mystery.
however, because of the selfishness and sense of entitlement of these two (yes they are boomers...gen x 1965...) the outbreak worsened when it shouldnt have, at least not to the current extent.
these two should be Locked up. I make no apologies for singling them out as boomers. As gen x myself, I’ve followed them my whole life, and seen the massive windfalls that have come their way, that no current generation will ever see. It’s like a drug for them. They always want more. And they want the following generations to pay for it. When this all kicked off in March, in my area, everyone was doing the right thing. Distancing, staying home etc...everyone except the boomers who were out mingling with their friends. Saw it first hand. No distancing. Nothing.
my parents are disgusted at their own generation. Because of these two. Thousands of xmas’s, including my own family’s, are ruined. Haven’t seen them since January. And now won’t.
Edit...small number of boomers giving the rest a bad name.
i accept that how they contracted it is still a mystery.
however, because of the selfishness and sense of entitlement of these two (yes they are boomers...gen x 1965...) the outbreak worsened when it shouldnt have, at least not to the current extent.
these two should be Locked up. I make no apologies for singling them out as boomers. As gen x myself, I’ve followed them my whole life, and seen the massive windfalls that have come their way, that no current generation will ever see. It’s like a drug for them. They always want more. And they want the following generations to pay for it. When this all kicked off in March, in my area, everyone was doing the right thing. Distancing, staying home etc...everyone except the boomers who were out mingling with their friends. Saw it first hand. No distancing. Nothing.
my parents are disgusted at their own generation. Because of these two. Thousands of xmas’s, including my own family’s, are ruined. Haven’t seen them since January. And now won’t.
Edit...small number of boomers giving the rest a bad name.
Don’t be to concerned yet of months of stand down etc. As the NSW premier said today 30 cases sounds bad but, it’s not all bad news all within Northern beaches 28 are linked to the RSL 2 under investigation. Hopefully tomorrow if there are still high numbers they’re all in the same LGA. One things I have seen is the compliance of ppl to stay home in the last 3 days which is encouraging. Just like the Parafield cluster this Northern beaches cluster will be short lived and just a bump in the road
All it takes is a severe super spreader event and a whole bunch more of us will likely not return to the skies anytime in the near future and for some maybe never as a bunch of QF and VA folk sadly have experienced. It'a a fragile little industry and until a vaccine is widely available and actually fully effective against the virus and mutation, any job security in the airlines are going to be minimal at best.
I wonder if it is possible to find out who the 60 and 70yo are and if it would be possible to take a civil case against them for loss of income, business etc?
Just thinking.
Just thinking.
Quarantining infectious returned travellers in capital cities has to stop - now. It has been proven 3 times that the risks simply cannot be managed.
If the aviation industry had failed to learn from its mistakes in a similar manner there would be smoking holes off the end of every runway daily.
TGA needs to expedite vaccine approval. If efficacious vaccines have been approved by reputable overseas regulators, it shouldn't take until January for approval and March for first doses to be administered.
This is getting harder to take every time it happens. Personally, this one has knocked me around worse than the last couple. There was such optimism a few days ago and we have managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, for the same reason. Again.
If the aviation industry had failed to learn from its mistakes in a similar manner there would be smoking holes off the end of every runway daily.
TGA needs to expedite vaccine approval. If efficacious vaccines have been approved by reputable overseas regulators, it shouldn't take until January for approval and March for first doses to be administered.
This is getting harder to take every time it happens. Personally, this one has knocked me around worse than the last couple. There was such optimism a few days ago and we have managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, for the same reason. Again.
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But it’s no bump in the road for domestic aviation. Unless your definition of a bump is the bucket kicked down the road 2 months minimum.
And unlike Adelaide, Sydney/Melbourne are crucial to stand up a large majority of the aviation network across the country.
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As a Sydney based Pilot, I’m waiting the stand down! It is a bump in the road as long as the rest of the country is open the effects on other bases will be there but not total stand downs. If I get a 2 month stand down well that’s how it is but the business is earning money and we will all have something to go back to.
Anyone else who is in Sydney with the scaremongering others had spread that domestic will be dead for a long time, zoom will be the new way etc welll there has been plenty of travelers and a tonne of business people.
Anyone else who is in Sydney with the scaremongering others had spread that domestic will be dead for a long time, zoom will be the new way etc welll there has been plenty of travelers and a tonne of business people.
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As a Sydney based Pilot, I’m waiting the stand down! It is a bump in the road as long as the rest of the country is open the effects on other bases will be there but not total stand downs. If I get a 2 month stand down well that’s how it is but the business is earning money and we will all have something to go back to.
Anyone else who is in Sydney with the scaremongering others had spread that domestic will be dead for a long time, zoom will be the new way etc welll there has been plenty of travelers and a tonne of business people.
Anyone else who is in Sydney with the scaremongering others had spread that domestic will be dead for a long time, zoom will be the new way etc welll there has been plenty of travelers and a tonne of business people.
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West Aussies will be enjoying the lead up to Christmas in near total freedom, certain residents of Sydney won’t. You think the average West Aussie would rather Gladys in charge?
You know there’s an entire community of people outside of aviation who get to vote right?
You know there’s an entire community of people outside of aviation who get to vote right?
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No remote quarantine is not too difficult, the Federal Gov needs to get off their bums and organise something, forget the quotas, you bring in as many as safely possible. Can’t get workers? Pay them 150k salary, you will get workers. Pay for domestic flights around the country once the arrivals are out of quarantine. You bet it’s expensive but this stop start crap will dwarf the costs of a proper remote quarantine system. Vaccine ain’t gonna bring relief anytime soon, at best the end of 21, do we want another year of Stop Starting of the economy? I’ve been advocating remote quarantine since May last year, I think after every bloody state goes through the same mistakes eventually it might come next year. Unless Scomo actually uses initiative and does something for once.
There is practically no social distancing going on during Christmas shopping and poor application of the three. If it gets into WA, they're cactus.
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West Aussies will be enjoying the lead up to Christmas in near total freedom, certain residents of Sydney won’t.
You think the average West Aussie would rather Gladys in charge?