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Old 19th Dec 2020, 02:53
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What is the unpalatable numbers for Vic, QLD and other states to close off to NSW today? 5, 10,20 announced
Probably not numbers but a combination growth and coverage/location
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 04:50
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The basic principle of "quarantine" has been long understood.

Should not be a problem to grasp the concept.

The approach to the WA border, like it or not, is in the national interest.

Elsewhere, iron ore and gold production has been cut off at the knees, due to workforce disruption.

"The suggestion that commodity exports will again exceed $250 billion in the year ahead highlights the economic opportunity presented by the absence of the coronavirus in Western Australia, which is responsible for the vast majority of Australia's gold and iron ore production."

https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/b...0200925-p55z9v

Evidence would suggest Australia has handled this rather well, on both infection and economic fronts.

That we should be called upon again to do what actually works, should not come as any surprise.


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Old 19th Dec 2020, 05:01
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Time for some decisive leadership.
You can pile on as much leadership in the form of directions until the cows come home
The directions are not going to stop this. It is only each and everyone of us making a conscious decision to do what is asked that will stop the spread.

But as we can see, it only takes one person to not comply and it is all over.

How about the Australian government step up and take care of Australia by doing what their supposed to in regards to international borders, immigration and quarantine and mandate remote quarantining. Direct international arrivals to land at places like Alice Springs or military bases and put them into federally funded facilities. Stop palming it off to states stop using the cheapest option of inner city hotels and step up and lead, because it’s obvious all states will continue this cycle of shut down and open up every few weeks/months until the vaccine uptake is widespread. If Australia is to be one country again it’s time for the Australian government to lead.
Better check up on who is in charge inside each state borders. Clue, it is not ScoMo
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 05:26
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Just read COVID traces detected in sewage samples on Gold Coast, Townsville and Cairns.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 05:28
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Yup. It's looking messy.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 05:29
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But as we can see, it only takes one person to not comply and it is all over.
All over? God spare me. I'm not a rona virus denier or a conspiracy theorist but spare us the dramatics. It's a major health issue and needs to be dealt with as such but for chrissakes do we need the drama, disaster and doomsday crap?

Better check up on who is in charge inside each state borders. Clue, it is not ScoMo
Scomo has made it quite clear that he doesn't make the border decisions and has no say.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 06:10
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Nine reporting Vic government meetings underway this evening with a plan to include Metro Sydney in that hotspot zone. Details tomorrow morning.

Tasmania has now pulled the plug. 14 Day Q.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 06:13
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Originally Posted by wheels_down
Nine reporting Vic government meetings underway this evening with a plan to include Metro Sydney in that hotspot zone. Details tomorrow morning.
It’s likely the virus was transmitted outside the Northern beaches, we already know that positive cases travelled as far as Cronulla and Penrith. I’m pretty surprised mandatory masks at least aren’t being implemented for the city.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 06:16
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It’s likely the virus was transmitted outside the Northern beaches, we already know that positive cases travelled as far as Cronulla and Penrith. I’m pretty surprised mandatory masks at least aren’t being implemented for the city.
As an absolute bare minimum, trains, planes and buses, and airports! If they are serious add Supermakets and Malls.

Perhaps the airlines should take some initiative and put in mandatory masks or no boarding. They already have free masks for each passenger anyway. Few airlines in the USA have done this
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 06:37
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Vic health officials seem a little edgy this evening it appears.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 06:49
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Border Pass required for Queensland from 0100 20/12. I imagine that the trigger for a hard border again is not too far away, Christmas notwithstanding. Still ten weeks out from a vaccine? I am the pessimist’s pessimist, able to see only the dark cloud surrounding every silver lining. Guess what I see now.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 07:28
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Guess what I see now.
Dead people...?
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 07:43
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Everyone needs to calm down stop the doomsday rubbish. NSW are the best in the world at handling this and yes it’s a big bump on the road but it will be controlled. Ppl have been saying here that Gladys needs to make mask mandatory and yet there has not been a break out from not making them mandatory.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 07:55
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 08:03
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Mark McGowan overreaction panic conference coming up in about 10 minutes. 🔒
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 08:22
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Isn't it time to tell McGowan to piss off and form his own Country, provided of course they take the word Australia out of their name, because Australian they aint.

McGowanstan has a nice ring to it, or perhaps the Southern Socialist republic of McGowanstan.

All I heard out of his mouth was F@#$K the rest of you, We alright Jack the rest of you can F#$@K off. Lets see how well he does without the rest of us propping him up.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 08:28
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
Ppl have been saying here that Gladys needs to make mask mandatory and yet there has not been a break out from not making them mandatory.
I have full faith in NSW doing a good job- we are on the same page here.

Regarding mandating mask use, I’ve only got quals as a pilot so this is the best risk analogy I’ve got:

If you have windshear on the ATIS for takeoff do you?

A: Use normal takeoff figures because it doesn’t look too bad outside (people who won’t wear a mask because they don’t like the feel of them).

Or

B: Use full thrust with windshear figures and give yourself the best chance possible (Mandate mask use until they are certain it’s under control, knowing more people will wear them if they have to).






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Old 19th Dec 2020, 08:31
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Since it appears there are quite a few people from the affected LGA in Skidnee that are now in Queensland and also CV traces have been found in the sewerage right up to Cairns it would be amazing if it wasn't already in Victoria but then reduced testing numbers might not show the true situation.
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 08:34
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Originally Posted by thorn bird
Isn't it time to tell McGowan to piss off and form his own Country, provided of course they take the word Australia out of their name, because Australian they aint.

McGowanstan has a nice ring to it, or perhaps the Southern Socialist republic of McGowanstan.

All I heard out of his mouth was F@#$K the rest of you, We alright Jack the rest of you can F#$@K off. Lets see how well he does without the rest of us propping him up.
Doesnt sound like you're familiar with the economics of this country......
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Old 19th Dec 2020, 09:30
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Originally Posted by thorn bird
Isn't it time to tell McGowan to piss off and form his own Country, provided of course they take the word Australia out of their name, because Australian they aint.

McGowanstan has a nice ring to it, or perhaps the Southern Socialist republic of McGowanstan.

All I heard out of his mouth was F@#$K the rest of you, We alright Jack the rest of you can F#$@K off. Lets see how well he does without the rest of us propping him up.
Actually .. most people in the West are very happy.
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