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Old 13th Aug 2020, 12:35
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He's pretty brave if it's true he vaccinated his own daughter with it.
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Old 13th Aug 2020, 22:25
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ex ABC News: Qantas and Virgin knew the Ruby Princess was a coronavirus time bomb....

Link here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-...virus/12550558

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Old 13th Aug 2020, 23:49
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A fine display of government incompetence.

It would have been relatively straight forward under public health legislation to put all Ruby Princess passengers into mandatory quarantine while awaiting test results.
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 01:40
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Originally Posted by Stickshift3000
A fine display of government incompetence.

It would have been relatively straight forward under public health legislation to put all Ruby Princess passengers into mandatory quarantine while awaiting test results.
Everything was underestimated about this virus in the early days. Only the Asian nations that learnt the hard way with SARS etc seemed to go hard early.
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 01:59
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The assumption that responsibility for stopping passengers board aeroplanes lay with others was pervasive
— governments and airlines looked to Border Force but Border Force said the power was with airlines.
This is a fancy way of saying that within all the organisations involved, none of the high paid executives showed any real leadership.
It’s a scarce commodity now days, and most can’t quite cope with the concept of doing something that they know is right, but will potentially have negative impacts for them personally.
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 04:24
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Sad as it is and unfortunate as it is, if this is not an old peoples disease, then why does he have to provide
the ages of the deaths at each press conference. If he provides the ages, then it feels like Dan is insinuating it's an old people's disease.
Or conversely is he trying to insinuate it's a young people's disease.
Just say the number. (Hope no numbers). We don't need to know the ages. We don't need to know wether its male/female.
If your going to disclose ages then disclose any underlying conditions. No, we can't do that, we must shock & awe
not go about it with common sense and practicability.

The post I wrote, "This is my plan B....etc" on 12 Aug, I copied and paste it to Channel 7s House of Wellness, of course, I wasn't really expecting a reply.
To my surprise, I did get a reply though due to copyright, I don't think I'm allowed to place the email here. I would if allowed.
Though if I can say, Gerald Quigley agreed me. Good news on the percentage recovery rate isn't good media news. Leave it at that.
No, I don't want a friggen medal, it's just a friggen recommendation for all businesses to friggen get back to work.
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 04:48
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Devil

What I really would like to know is,

IF AFL teams can be put into a 'bubble' and the games go on, then why oh why cannot our most vulnerable people - aka the 'Elderly', (one of which I hope to be in the future, as the alternative is cold and dark - some say...) why cannot the 'elderly' be put into a 'bubble' also..??

One way may be is to stop the number of staff who work 'part time' in several facilities, into having all staff work only in the ONE facility, with very regular testing.
This may preclude the virus from travelling from one facility to another....

e.g. IF 'Country Vic' is virus free, as many have stated on the radio etc, then why not transfer as many as possible to 'Country' locations until the Vic 'MEL' city folk have been dealt with?

Or, alternatively, just shoot all of the collingwood supporters - would be a good start........??Devil
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 05:07
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Problem was, the bubble they were in are called Nursing Homes, and it didn't work.
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 05:29
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Problem was, the bubble they were in are called Nursing Homes, and it didn't work.
Because of the casualisation of the workforce, very few people have sick leave, so they go to work sick.
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 05:51
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It should'nt come as any surprise it was an epic fail given it was left to pollies and department heads to manage it. I remember when scomo announced we are prepared. The girls retorted straight away "no we're not, we haven't even started to prepare". Since then largely as an unaffected state much prep has been made, there are still some weaknesses around PPE, decontamination and disposal procedure, which obviously Vic hasn't got right yet either. Changes are being made almost on a daily basis as we learn from VIC
There's not too many (medical staff) putting their hands up to go help VIC for fear of infection. For you turnleft, dying is well down their concern list..
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Maybe Dan should just take a look at this
and have a little bit of a faith. On sky 4 days ago.

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Old 14th Aug 2020, 06:09
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
He's pretty brave if it's true he vaccinated his own daughter with it.
He'd be more brave if he vaccinated HIMSELF with it.
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 06:47
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
It should'nt come as any surprise it was an epic fail given it was left to pollies and department heads to manage it. I remember when scomo announced we are prepared. The girls retorted straight away "no we're not, we haven't even started to prepare". Since then largely as an unaffected state much prep has been made, there are still some weaknesses around PPE, decontamination and disposal procedure, which obviously Vic hasn't got right yet either. Changes are being made almost on a daily basis as we learn from VIC
There's not too many (medical staff) putting their hands up to go help VIC for fear of infection. For you turnleft, dying is well down their concern list..
I pretty much agree though at some stage the way we are going it's unsustainable. Dying is not on anyone's list.
The clip above can get us back working tomorrow. The Prof thinks he can kill the virus in 6 to 8 days with a drug that's been around since 1975.
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080
Maybe Dan should just take a look at this
and have a little bit of a faith. On sky 4 days ago.
https://youtu.be/93jI7Gl3yic
"You will hit safety problems far sooner than you will hit efficacy.”

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...27b13d4356b0aa

Doesn't seem too promising to me.
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 07:14
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He admits he's not a virologist, why would you ask a naturopath for advice while you're having a heart attack.
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 07:51
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Dying is not on anyone's list.
On the contrary, it is on everyone's list.
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 08:01
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Devil

Tick - Tick - Tick - Tick........................
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 08:29
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Originally Posted by compressor stall
And then one person shows symptoms on day 10 and is positive so everyone in the bubble is a close contact. Then they ALL start their 2 weeks again. Rinse and repeat. You'll be in there for a lot longer than 2 weeks on average, and end up with a lot more people infected. And who pays for that.

On the pro side, EK require negative PCR test for all pax before boarding - to be shown at checkin - so there are fewer positive cases travelling.
The downside for EK is hardly anyone will fly with them. It’s a ball ache of a process to go through.
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 09:33
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080
I pretty much agree though at some stage the way we are going it's unsustainable.
Well if it can't be eradicated and we are all ready to give up, we can adopt north koreas approach, one active case, bang, no active cases, one active case , bang, no active cases. Although in the civilised world we could do it more humanely rather than just shooting them in the face
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I would still shoot you in the face.
Originally Posted by Xeptu
we could do it more humanely rather than just shooting them in the face
Dude are you a licensed firearms owner? I really hope you aren't. You seem to have a disturbing fascination there.
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