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Old 24th Jul 2020, 01:13
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The lack clear identification on some has made this description as wide spread as it is. A patch with "Police" doesn't cut it I'm afraid. Same with fatigues, you see people wearing them everyday in Walmart.

I don't disagree with you, with regard to activists being involved, and I don't necessarily have issue with the protection of Federal assets as such, but in a rules based society, blurring the lines of authority can have unintended consequences.
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 01:30
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So when the aircraft is on fire and you're a passenger down the back, you wait for Dan Andrews to come open the emergency exit for you do you?
No, no I wouldn't but I have no doubt a good proportion of the passengers wouldn't have a clue how to get that emergency exit open, and that's the ones who do listen to the cabin briefing.

Anyway your analogy is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. The structure of this outbreak will be well known soon enough. You won't have much choice but to accept the findings of the inquiry. To say that the population in Victoria is behaving significantly different to the way the rest of Australia would in a similar circumstance is a bit of a stretch. The very reason that Queensland has no covid is from the management of the processes in place. Is it not? As much as we (I) like to criticise the QLD government, they've done the job they were elected to do. Andrews hasn't, it's blatantly obvious to anyone who would like to objectively look at what has happened that his decision making created the mess that Victoria is in.

I have been lucky enough to have travelled between several states during this mess, done two iso's so far and hands down, Victoria is a joke and the laughing stock of the rest of Australia.

I was 'lucky' enough to get out of VIC prior to shutdown. I've been able to travel between states, SA & QLD, the security measures are well executed and provide little disruption, even travelling on a VIC drivers licence. Well done those states.
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 01:35
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Originally Posted by morno

53% of you stupid barstards in Victoria thought it was a good idea to duck into Woolies for your weekly shop after being tested and feeling unwell!!! How stupid are you all? Do you really all need to be treated like kindergarteners and told when to wipe your asses? Or do you **** your pants and then blame it on the premier?

How about a bit of common sense and responsibility, that’d go a long way.
Morno, you took Dan Andrews bait- hook, line and sinker. He wants you to blame the public to deflect the heat off him. Yes the public are also to blame, but Dan lit the bushfire. I just don’t understand why smart people like you won’t hold him accountable.
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 01:42
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Hi Buster Agreed, but where does one draw the line on identification, the officers are wearing unit badges and operate IAW ROE laid out by the feds.
Given the militants doxing history and current wishes to exterminate Law enforcement members and their family members it’s probably a wise choice. The officers has unit patches and their officer numbers displayed.

Some of the videos blown out proportion labelled as kidnapping in streets by unmarked agents are more likely to be informant or undercover operative extractions.
These are not peaceful protests, why do you need to “peacefully” protest at 3am with shields and pipe bombs. I believe the Australian public would not tolerate these sort of militant actions.


Badge clearly shows officers number, and unit border patrol. This a media beat up.





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Old 24th Jul 2020, 01:45
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Buster they are not para-military as you suggest. They are protecting federal buildings from the wilful destruction of highly organised anarchist and Marxist activists.
The teams are comprised of federal marshals, border protection, and other federal agencies.
“Organised Anarchists”? There’s a contradiction in terms.
“Border Protection”? Didn’t realise Oregon had international borders....


These actions will continue until Soros gets what he wants.
Ahhhh yes the truth is exposed. George Soros is behind it all. Even though his $8 billion dollar wealth puts him at a fairly low 162nd richest person in the world, a fraction of the wealth of other politically motivated billionaires like Sheldon Adelson, Rupert Murdoch or the Koch’s, Soros is actually the secret money behind all political influence and destabilisation in the world.

I bet right now he’s in secret ANTIFA meetings directing where the next round of chaos will emerge.....
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 01:52
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Thanks dr Dre, guess I’m due to be shipped off for Marxist re-education, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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I dare say class action from individuals (restaurant owners, shop owners etc) against the Victorian Government for their negligence won’t be far around the corner either...

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/12488012
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-41. I think we're on the same page but looking at it from different angles. A quick Google search brought up plenty of images of "security" with no identification but regardless of all that...it's just very sad to see the whole picture unfolding over there.



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Ahhhh yes the truth is exposed. George Soros is behind it all. Even though his $8 billion dollar wealth puts him at a fairly low 162nd richest person in the world, a fraction of the wealth of other politically motivated billionaires like Sheldon Adelson, Rupert Murdoch or the Koch’s, Soros is actually the secret money behind all political influence and destabilisation in the world.
And of course you can't have an opinion without it being debunked by the intellectually superior amongst us.
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 03:23
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And of course you can't have an opinion without it being debunked by the intellectually superior amongst us.
Have all the opinions you want, if it's based on ridiculous "Soros controls the world" or "Corona is a hoax" conspiracy theories, don't cry when people call you out on it.
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Have all the opinions you want, if it's based on ridiculous "Soros controls the world" or "Corona is a hoax" conspiracy theories, don't cry when people call you out on it.
The same people who advocate for freedom of speech but don't like the part where it doesn't imply freedom from criticism.
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Originally Posted by dr dre
Ahhhh yes the truth is exposed. George Soros is behind it all. Even though his $8 billion dollar wealth puts him at a fairly low 162nd richest person in the world, a fraction of the wealth of other politically motivated billionaires like Sheldon Adelson, Rupert Murdoch or the Koch’s, Soros is actually the secret money behind all political influence and destabilisation in the world.

I bet right now he’s in secret ANTIFA meetings directing where the next round of chaos will emerge.....
Perhaps you should do some research and find out where the money being raised by Black Lives Matter in the US is being funnelled.

You probably missed the interview (CNN?) where one of the founders of BLM described herself as a "trained Marxist"

In case you're wondering where all this ends - look up "Agenda 2030". This isn't a conspiracy theory - you'll find it published on the UN website.

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Astounding how hard the ABC is working to quash any suggestion that there may have been transmission during recent protests.

10,000 people gather during a pandemic. On the balance of probability....

VIC can only trace about 20% of transmissions. Therefore impossible to rule out...
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Originally Posted by dr dre
“Organised Anarchists”? There’s a contradiction in terms.
“Border Protection”? Didn’t realise Oregon had international borders....

George Soros is behind it all. Even though his $8 billion dollar wealth puts him at a fairly low 162nd richest person in the world, a fraction of the wealth of other politically motivated billionaires like Sheldon Adelson, Rupert Murdoch or the Koch’s, Soros is actually the secret money behind all political influence and destabilisation in the
What a train wreck of a post...

Anarchism is an ideology of wanting government abolished. Individuals starting organisations to that end are organised anarchists.

CBP can probably go wherever they want. Unless you also think the US Army should not have worked to desegregate schools because there was no war?

Soros has shuffled over $32bn through his foundation. $40bn+ gets you up to the big leagues and leapfrogs those you mentioned. As a 90 year old he’s probably not worried about running out of money.

The “Koch’s” are one after half of that evil duo died last year. Your nefarious billionaire knowledge is lacking.

The Soros foundation worked to install many extreme left prosecutors in the US who have declined to charge any rioters while charging cops who were witness to a drug overdose with murder. That isn’t really a conspiracy theory it’s very well publicised.

https://www.latimes.com/local/califo...523-story.html
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 06:31
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You probably missed the interview (CNN?) where one of the founders of BLM described herself as a "trained Marxist"
And if the founders came straight out and said they want to push socialism and Marxism as a political idealogy in America they’d rightly be laughed at and left at the fringes of loony left political power. But by attaching themselves to a legitimate social justice issue, they can push their agenda under the guise of racial injustice, thereby giving their extreme political agenda legitimacy.
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Have all the opinions you want, if it's based on ridiculous "Soros controls the world" or "Corona is a hoax" conspiracy theories, don't cry when people call you out on it.
Ahhh, right, so I've now said or implied that the rona is a hoax? That's all you've got? The proof on Soros is out there.
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Originally Posted by patty50
What a train wreck of a post...
]Anarchism is an ideology of wanting government abolished. Individuals starting organisations to that end are organised anarchists.
I'm talking about the unfounded fear of the "dreaded Antifa". They are tiny, have no influence, no money, no real structure but are talked about by some as if they are on the verge of a revolutionary takeover of society. I'd doubt they number more than a few dozen in each Australian city.

CBP can probably go wherever they want.
Outside of their stated jurisdiction? Looks like their little mass public arrest plan failed anyway, I don't think the populace liked what they did.........

Soros has shuffled over $32bn through his foundation.
Some of which has gone to BLM, which is fine btw. None to Antifa, and Soros has no control over either of them, so how is he controlling the "chaos" on the streets again? Those scenes from the SBS report from Portland looked well supported and peaceful to me.

The “Koch’s” are one after half of that evil duo died last year. Your nefarious billionaire knowledge is lacking.
If you had a bit more knowledge yourself you'd realise that the other half of the Koch brothers is still alive, and since his brother's death has lobbied to remove healthcare and food assistance from poor people and lobbied to kill environmental and clean energy legislation. Charles Koch is worth about 6x as much as Soros btw.

The Soros foundation worked to install many extreme left prosecutors in the US who have declined to charge any rioters while charging cops who were witness to a drug overdose with murder. That isn’t really a conspiracy theory it’s very well publicised.
Errrr no. Rioters have been charged, even in "liberal" cities like Chicago. The "extreme left prosecutors" are looking to decrease incarceration, stop police misconduct and stop imprisonment of people without charge. No sign of an anarcho-communist takeover there. What cops got charged?

Why are we discussing this again in a forum about Australian Aviation on a thread about pandemic control measures?
I guess when people get frustrated conspiracy theorists get busy. I'm waiting for the next round of anti-vaxxer, anti-mask or "it's all a hoax" posts.
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Originally Posted by Bodie1
That's all you've got? The proof on Soros is out there.

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Well there ya go, four months preparing to protect our aged and vulnerable and they're the very first to go down. I think the girls just might be right.
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Buckle up.

https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/213216...-herd-immunity
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