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Old 6th Oct 2020, 12:20
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Originally Posted by Joker89 View Post
really, to me the deaths curve and the cases curve look nothing like the first wave.
I would agree. Hard reliable data was difficult at that time.

Early on 1 in 4 tests were positive in the UK. Only the sickest got tested. Both of which skewed their data badly.

If more tests = more positives, UK should have peaked at the end of July.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...pickerSort=asc
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 12:31
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Regarding the UK I will just pick a date April 5 cases 5348 deaths 644 and October 5 cases 12594 deaths 19
That's 3 weeks into both waves. Also checkout world cases against deaths. Cases slope up, the deaths slope down.
Interesting trend. Also found out President Trump while at Walter Reed Hospital was given Remdesivir, Regeneron, Dexamethasome
Zinc, Vit D, Famotidine, Melatonin. That's 5 drugs and 2 minerals which are Zinc and D. Dr Sean Colony (yes James Bond) his main doc
should be treating everyone like this. For this info U-tube Dr John Campbell update.
Cheers.
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 12:47
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I like Dr John.

He seems far more concerned about the upswing in cases than yourself.

He will also tell you less than a quarter of the cases in the UK "first wave" were detected.

One reason the UK case fatality rate is so much higher that our own.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...pickerSort=asc
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Old 7th Oct 2020, 06:25
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Originally Posted by KRviator View Post
Two Hundred and thirteen BILLION dollars.

That's the budget deficit this year - a stunning turnaround from the projected $5 billion surplus forecast before we locked down the countries towns, cities and state borders.
While it would not have been a $213B black hole, only a fairy and Santa would believe it was going to be a surplus.

P.S pretty much the World was/is in lock down - that would have & continue to impact Australia's deficit/surplus bottom line.
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Old 7th Oct 2020, 08:27
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Originally Posted by KRviator View Post
Anybody really think we "got out money's worth"?
Yes.........
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 06:09
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Will Queen P with the election people! Have QLD ppl woken up to her and that idiot SM.
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 07:21
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Here is todays odd spot.
Cases in NSW registered 12 while in VIC they reached 11. All of NSW remains totally open while Melbourne remains
in stage 4 lockdown, metro in a ring of steel, 5km limited, masked and mentally broken.
Meanwhile the lady in QLD is telling the lady in NSW you have 48 hours or else.
Place these two on the stage it would be more entertaining than the debate we had last week.

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Old 8th Oct 2020, 09:26
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080 View Post
Here is todays odd spot.
Cases in NSW registered 12 while in VIC they reached 11. All of NSW remains totally open while Melbourne remains
in stage 4 lockdown, metro in a ring of steel, 5km limited, masked and mentally broken.
Meanwhile the lady in QLD is telling the lady in NSW you have 48 hours or else.
Place these two on the stage it would be more entertaining than the debate we had last week.
What part of VIC was having 700 cases a day just last month don't you realise?
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 10:01
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Originally Posted by thisishardtochoose View Post
What part of VIC was having 700 cases a day just last month don't you realise?
Itís the garlic....
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 10:27
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ďAll of NSW remains totally openĒ

Totally wrong !!

Try driving from Victoria into NSW. Canít be done except for small border areas and requires a permit.

Even NSW residents in regional Victoria (most areas have had no cases for months) canít get into NSW unless they quarantine in Sydney.

According to the NSW COVID-19 helpline, NSW has no / none / zilch roadmap as to when theyíll open up to people in Victoria
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 10:35
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Originally Posted by layman View Post
“All of NSW remains totally open”
Totally wrong !!
Try driving from Victoria into NSW. Can’t be done except for small border areas and requires a permit.
Wrong context.
Everyone in NSW can move about at will throughout NSW, even though there were more cases in NSW than VIC and the Victorians remain prisoners in their own homes...
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 11:44
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Originally Posted by morno View Post
Itís the garlic....
Oh! Morno. Don't be ridiculous. You must be silenced immediately. Do you really think a product like garlic that's been protecting the human race for the last 5000 years
from all sort of diseases is going to protect you today. As head of the pharacutical industry the idea of garlic and while I'm at it Zinc and Vit D is just preposterous.
In a pandemic, the idea is to make a lot of money and I mean a lot of money with expensive drugs, not with regular shopping at your local green grocery.
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 13:10
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Originally Posted by KRviator View Post
even though there were more cases in NSW than VIC
Did I miss something? When did this happen?
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 14:01
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NSW did not have more cases than VIC you guys are reading the stats all wrong. NSW has 8 cases today as 4 are returned international travelers already in hotel quarantine.
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 21:04
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
Will Queen P with the election people! Have QLD ppl woken up to her and that idiot SM.
Saw her on tv yesterday talking about investing into some hydrogen project.
She looked the part in her open neck mens shirt & using her 2 new words'for example' many times,she must have been up all night learning them.
Wonder what the tourism operators who are on the brink of collapse thought about her investment in hydrogen🤦‍♀️
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 23:05
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KRviator

In that context, ALL states & territories are totally open

Melburnians being the only exception
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 23:24
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Originally Posted by layman View Post
KRviator

In that context, ALL states & territories are totally open

Melburnians being the only exception
No one is arguing any different, where are you going with this?

TL080 made the point NSW registered more cases than Victoria, though granted 4 of them were in hotel quarantine, and from memory 3 were from the previous day added to the current days tally, but nonetheless, the "count" for that day exceeded Victoria, yet they are still the ones in lockdown.

I don't necessarily agree with TL080 on this one, as it should only be community transmission that counts, the 4 cases NSW had in hotel quarantine aren't relevant to the lockdown/don't lockdown decision.
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Old 9th Oct 2020, 01:59
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Given the constant chopping and changing of new cases being detected of Covid-19 it seems fruitless to continue to guess or hope for border re openings in Australia.

Even the Premiers can't agree on a formula and rather they all seem hell bent on protecting their political future rather than the well being of this Country both physically and financially.

Short of a vaccine being discovered really soon I cannot see ALL of the borders in this country opening for at least another 6 months, maybe one or two but WA will remain stuck in it's sandpit for a long time.

The prospect of a vaccine soon does not seem very likely so I guess we will just have to try and sit this out difficult as it is.

Our country desperately needs it's airlines flying fully again and people travelling unhindered as soon as possible as it's a very big part of the economy.

Fingers crossed for this elusive vaccine!!!!
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Old 9th Oct 2020, 07:07
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What a splendid day at Spring street today. Just a brilliant solid innings that. The journalists bowled leg breaks, googlies, yorkers, bouncers
and Dan Andrews played them with contempt and beautiful judgment. The deflecting behind the wicket was measurable.
He remains on 99 not out and tomorrow when play resumes at 11am he will play a off drive down to mid off for a magnificent
century. Never in the history of politics has this occurred. It doesn't get to be any better than that. He has laid the foundations
and now will have his eye in set for his double hundred by Christmas.
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Old 9th Oct 2020, 07:46
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What a splendid day at Spring street today. Just a brilliant solid innings that. The journalists bowled leg breaks, googlies, yorkers, bouncers and Dan Andrews played them with contempt and beautiful judgment. The deflecting behind the wicket was measurable. He remains on 99 not out and tomorrow when play resumes at 11am he will play a off drive down to mid off for a magnificent century. Never in the history of politics has this occurred. It doesn't get to be any better than that. He has laid the foundations and now will have his eye in set for his double hundred by Christmas.
Time to take the second new ball and bring out that devastating quick The Constitution for a bit chin music just before the close of play. I would imagine he will easily get two or three quick wickets but whether the Federal Government will bring him on and drop it in short is the question.

About time this country was put back to the way it was envisioned.

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