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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 23:52
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Well it looks Mr Gunner struggling to hold onto a majority, his keep the border closed campaign slogan didn't have the effect he wanted should of been a slam dunk re election. Voters looking for certainty in time of crisis.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 01:57
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Talking to many from different countries Aus comes up. Common point, isn’t Australia one country? Watching the news it is more like lots of little countries. Not to mention previous changes of the PM, at least ScoMo hasn’t been attacked during this and is haven a crack.

Travel bubbles in the Asia Pac are starting, Singapore - En Zud will be interesting.

I’m with CS on this get the economy moving.

Masks, whatever the research one thing that’s masks DO do is make people conscious of the issues all the time. It does make you think. Personally I hate em but that’s life.

Straya is pretty much locked down, residents cannot even come back with daily quotas. However keep an eye on the news for flying in foreign workers to do jobs Aussies to fooken lazy to do? To me this is the biggest madness in these current times.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 02:12
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Originally Posted by Joker89 View Post
I can only recommend you might want to fact check the statements made, the currency of the information and the source on that one.

"Spiked" is a rag phoenixed from "Living Marxism", journal of the British Revolutionary Communist Party, for example.

To say back in May that the pandemic was essentially "over" has been shown to be somewhat premature...
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 04:55
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Vic has gone from state of emergency, then state of disaster, it's now starting to feel like a state of desperation.
It's half time in stage 4 and according to Sutton we will never ever see case numbers in their 300/400s again.
Big call brother. Final siren blows in 3 weeks I'm eager to know what the score will end up. I've listened to a lot of talk back on radio and the patience, frustration, is starting to run thin just like mine, just like yours.
We know the final siren will blow in 3 weeks, however will go to the tribunal either to extend Stage 4 or go to a lower number. Jacinta and Anastasia have now understood that elimination is impossible.
If QLD cases increase (In the words of a footy commentator ) the election is going to be a cracker.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 05:45
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
Well it looks Mr Gunner struggling to hold onto a majority, his keep the border closed campaign slogan didn't have the effect he wanted should of been a slam dunk re election. Voters looking for certainty in time of crisis.
NT governments over the past years have only been surpassed in quality by the front page of the NT Times.

The CLP was voted out when MR Gunner took the helm, politics in the NT at that time put shame to the Rudd Gillard Rudd & Tony and Malcolm debacles combined.

Mr Gunner himself could easily challenge Trump for Tweet/comment of the day.

Well before Covid and including the CLP the economy has been declining, a walk down the mall is evident - not even the historic pub survived (this is Darwin do not forget).

Gunner getting re-elected is pretty amazing.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 06:23
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New York got hit hard and ended up in a 3 month lock down.

They came up with a re-open plan and reached the target June 7, the following day phase 1 of 4 was started.

Clearly they are still very nervous of this pandemic (after first hand experience) but they have a published plan based on a number of things some are cases per day and number of hospital & ICU beds available, all pretty sensible stuff.

https://gothamist.com/news/coronavir...demic-new-york

https://www.rochesterregional.org/ne...us-in-new-york

Interesting they have border restrictions via a formula also a less than 24 hour exclusion.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 07:41
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A quick question for you guys in Oz. I am trying to get home to Perth but at the moment there are only flights to Sydney. Can one stay in transit in Sydney and then ones arrive in Perth quarantine for 14 days, or would I have to quarantine in Sydney for 14 days as well. I know its not about the subject of this thread but looks like some of the guys would know. Thanks
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 07:44
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No. You must quarantine in the city of entry.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 08:12
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Originally Posted by volare_737 View Post
A quick question for you guys in Oz. I am trying to get home to Perth but at the moment there are only flights to Sydney. Can one stay in transit in Sydney and then ones arrive in Perth quarantine for 14 days, or would I have to quarantine in Sydney for 14 days as well. I know its not about the subject of this thread but looks like some of the guys would know. Thanks
Show less Travellers who have been in Victoria or New South Wales in the previous 14 days will not be allowed into WA, unless they fall into one of the following categories:
  • certain senior Government Officials
  • certain active military personnel
  • a member of the Commonwealth Parliament and any members of their staff travelling with them
  • a person carrying out functions under a law of the Commonwealth
  • the Premier of WA and any members of the Premier's staff
  • a person coming to WA at the request of the Chief Health Officer or the Director General of Health
  • any person (other than an airline or maritime crew member) responsible for transport or freight and logistics services into or out of WA
  • In addition, persons falling into the above categories are required to comply with certain hygiene requirements during the 14 days after the date they entered WA.
If you have been in Victoria or New South Wales in the previous 14 days and do not fall into the above categories, you will not be permitted to enter WA unless you have written approval from the State Emergency Coordinator (or a person authorised by the State Emergency Coordinator) and comply with any terms and conditions imposed on entry to WA. This may include quarantine requirements.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 08:59
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Originally Posted by volare_737 View Post
A quick question for you guys in Oz. I am trying to get home to Perth but at the moment there are only flights to Sydney. Can one stay in transit in Sydney and then ones arrive in Perth quarantine for 14 days, or would I have to quarantine in Sydney for 14 days as well. I know its not about the subject of this thread but looks like some of the guys would know. Thanks
Currently with that plan you'd the 14 days federal quarantine in Sydney when you arrive. My reading of the state regs (with the caveat that I'm more familiar with the aircrew exemptions, rather than for Joe public) says that you'd then you need to go somewhere else than NSW/VIC to quarantine then apply for a G2G pass to enter WA. If you think of QLD as you will have to quarantine again in QLD as you have been in NSW as a hotspot.
Then when you get to WA you'd have to quarantine again.
Study very carefully the directions in https://www.wa.gov.au/government/doc...der-state-wide

Note that you will need to consider multiple documents there - the original directions, then 4 amendments. Print them out, get a highlighter put them in reverse date order and good luck!

You will be best served flying straight in to PER on EK or Qatar if you can wait. Even business class might be cheaper in the long run (not having to pay multiple quarantine and flights and hotels - there aren't flights every day to Perth these days).

And these regulations are dynamic. They can change at a day's notice and don't care that you have a ticket....

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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 09:41
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Originally Posted by Bend Alot
Norway is cracking down heavily on travel to and from a host of European neighbors where Covid is making a startling comeback.
Mainly because of a massive increase of random testing throughout Europe. Here in Spain the average age of Covid positives is around 35 years old (compared to 60 plus back in April) and well over fifty percent of them are asymptomatic... Hospitalizations are happening but at a far lower rate! Hardly startling...



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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 10:21
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Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
Mainly because of a massive increase of random testing throughout Europe. Here in Spain the average age of Covid positives is around 35 years old (compared to 60 plus back in April) and well over fifty percent of them are asymptomatic... Hospitalizations are happening but at a far lower rate! Hardly startling...
Got any links or stats on your claims?

What is the average Covid positive age of 35 relevant too?

Spain a comparable country? I find Spain and Italy more comparable.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 10:47
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Thanks guys !! What is this world coming to ?????
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 11:06
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Thanks guys !! What is this world coming to ?????
The rest of the world seems to be getting on with it and generally accepting the lifestyle trade offs Not here.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 11:38
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Originally Posted by compressor stall View Post
The rest of the world seems to be getting on with it and generally accepting the lifestyle trade offs Not here.
Any examples?

Most of the World still seem cautious, very few "getting on with it" but your list will be interesting.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 11:54
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Due to the Europeans need for a summer holiday every year ( and I worked in Europe for 17 years .. so I know how it works) .. it seems that outbreaks are being reported again. I donít understand why they canít all stay put at home for a year.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 13:38
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Originally Posted by compressor stall View Post
The rest of the world seems to be getting on with it and generally accepting the lifestyle trade offs Not here.
The rest of the world closed their schools. Many are yet to reopen.

Australia is one of about half a dozen that didn't, albeit a couple of weeks distance ed. for some, but open nonetheless.

Alongside Taiwan, Singapore and yes, Sweden.

Yes here.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 21:36
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Originally Posted by currawong View Post
The rest of the world closed their schools. Many are yet to reopen.

Australia is one of about half a dozen that didn't, albeit a couple of weeks distance ed. for some, but open nonetheless.

Alongside Taiwan, Singapore and yes, Sweden.

Yes here.
Sweden closed (stopped education) for all students above 15 years old - all universities were closed.

Sweden will reopen universities and upper secondary schools from mid-June, Prime Minister Stefan LŲfven told a press conference on Friday.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 23:01
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Originally Posted by compressor stall View Post
Currently with that plan you'd the 14 days federal quarantine in Sydney when you arrive. My reading of the state regs (with the caveat that I'm more familiar with the aircrew exemptions, rather than for Joe public) says that you'd then you need to go somewhere else than NSW/VIC to quarantine then apply for a G2G pass to enter WA. If you think of QLD as you will have to quarantine again in QLD as you have been in NSW as a hotspot.
Then when you get to WA you'd have to quarantine again.
Study very carefully the directions in https://www.wa.gov.au/government/doc...der-state-wide

Note that you will need to consider multiple documents there - the original directions, then 4 amendments. Print them out, get a highlighter put them in reverse date order and good luck!

You will be best served flying straight in to PER on EK or Qatar if you can wait. Even business class might be cheaper in the long run (not having to pay multiple quarantine and flights and hotels - there aren't flights every day to Perth these days).

And these regulations are dynamic. They can change at a day's notice and don't care that you have a ticket....
No problems with almost 30,000 at the footy yesterday though-no risk there🙄
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Old 24th Aug 2020, 06:27
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Dan Andrews wants another 12 months of state of emergency till Sept 21. Power has now gone to his head.
This needs to be blocked and not passed by the house. If it is then borders closed till then. I thought Sept 20 was
driving me to the brink. He want's another 12 well if that happens I can sense a coup by the people.
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