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Old 20th Sep 2021, 07:49
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https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www....f674e231%3famp

Thats only an hour old. Palaszczuk told reporters Jeanette Young would like to see up to 90% but looks like she has pushed back on it and won’t be waiting until 90% to reopen. Pretty fair chance QLD would never get to 90% anyway if you’ve got Palmer, Christensen and Kelly running around.
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 07:50
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Originally Posted by SHVC View Post
90% It has been on the news all afternoon.
On Sky “News”, with the usual “is expected to”, “is said to be” and “is set to” with no confirmed quotes or plans, in an article from Peter Gleeson, who’s pretty dumb, even for a Sky “News” hack.

It would be good if whoever’s staffing the various Murdoch entities to talk to each other because their other publication, news.com.au is carrying the quotes of the Premier’s spokesperson denying that article:

Queensland government rejects reports state will stay closed until 90 per cent vaccine coverage




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Old 20th Sep 2021, 08:05
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In Singapore, no one fully vaccinated and below 70 years old has died or been in the ICU. Only 0.38% of fully vaccinated patients in their 70s has been in the ICU or died, this rate is actually lower than for unvaccinated people in their 30s which is 0.84%.

Vaccination rates were going up at about 1% per day but tailed off quite sharply after 80% coverage was reached.

A 90% rate will take a very long time to achieve and isn’t really a practical aim before opening up in Australia.
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 21:29
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Originally Posted by SHVC View Post
90% It has been on the news all afternoon.
Yeah except there wasn’t a firm figure given, but a “maybe” waffle answer. She will do what the polling and public pressure dictate. She’s a true politician in all the worst ways.
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 21:31
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Thats only an hour old. Palaszczuk told reporters Jeanette Young would like to see up to 90% but looks like she has pushed back on it and won’t be waiting until 90% to reopen.
It seems that Jeanette's advice is not so desirable when it doesn't meet the political narrative. Might be time for her to assume her Governor's duties.
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 05:00
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Originally Posted by C441 View Post
It seems that Jeanette's advice is not so desirable when it doesn't meet the political narrative. Might be time for her to assume her Governor's duties.
Looks like she might have backflipped on the backflip though. Non-committal today when asked about the 90% figure. Avoided giving a number, waiting for Doherty modelling to national cabinet in a fortnight. Meanwhile the tourism industry is screaming for certainty. Muppet.

About 12 mins in if you can bear to watch it.


Direct quote from the Qld Premier, 21/9/21

“National Cabinet is working on a national plan. We are waiting for further information to come from the Doherty Modelling to National Cabinet in a fortnight’s time,” she said.

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Old 21st Sep 2021, 05:46
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She claims NATIONAL PLAN now after doing her own thing, just like McClown. Muppets.
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 10:16
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I wonder if most people have read the “National Roadmap”.

It’s a one page PDF.

National Plan to transition Australia’s National COVID-19 Response

Phase C at 80%:

Measures may include:

Maximise vaccination coverage

Minimum ongoing baseline restrictions,
adjusted to minimise cases without lockdowns

Highly targeted lockdowns only

Continue vaccine booster programme;

Exempt vaccinated residents from all domestic restrictions;

Abolish caps on returning vaccinated Australians;

Allow increased capped entry of student, economic, and humanitarian visa holders;

Lift all restrictions on outbound travel for vaccinated Australians;

Extend travel bubble for unrestricted travel to new candidate countries (Singapore, Pacific)

Gradual reopening of inward and outward international travel with safe countries and proportionate quarantine and reduced requirements for fully vaccinated inbound travellers
.

There’s actually nothing in concrete about interstate borders. It is up to individual jurisdictions, like the NT which has said they want more than 80% or Tasmania which has said they’re aiming for 90%.

The point about “exemption of vaccinated residents domestic restrictions” could be interpreted to mean interstate travel for vaccinated residents, but it’s a vague sentence.

The National Roadmap is actually quite lacking in specific detail. Even lockdowns are only used in a “highly targeted” manner, but leaving questions about how that is defined.
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 10:38
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Ahh yes the road map!! Filled with arbitrary numbers and rubbish ideas no where else seems to have such a plan, Australia can do anything bettter. Meanwhile in ML a rioter filled a bottle with urine and hurled it at a journalist our country is no better than any 3rd world $hit hole at the moment. These governments are making sure they send us to economic ruin also. 2022 is shaping up to be one hell of a ride.
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 11:38
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The national roadmap is so vague, every sentence could be validly interpreted in many different ways. Did they consult CASA to write it?
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 03:16
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A road map that the main road is not controlled by a human at all is going to be vague. It's like letting 10,000 cows loose at one en of a paddock and then asking for the road map of which way they will travel to the other end for feed and water.

The whole idea of drawing up a map for something intangible is just stupid, all it is for is opposition screamers to yell at something when it doesn't go exactly as planned. Where every educated person knows, we are waiting on the right signals to open up, so the goal posts are variable depending on what the virus does next. It's like lets draw a road map for our way out of Afghanistan, and then the Taliban don't follow your rules, dammit, why didn't they stick to our plan....
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 04:36
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Following on from today’s earthquake, the Victorian government has admitted their roadmap possibly has a few cracks in it!

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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 08:21
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If we weren’t an international laughing stock, we are now. Only a matter of time before North Korea offers to send peacekeepers to Victoria.
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 08:50
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Just popped in to see/read the same prolific habitual posters saying the same bullshit/fear, love it:-)
Now where was I? Oh yeah out in the community un-vaxed & oddly enuf I'm still alive, much to the horror of those that believe I ought to be dead, several times over:-)lol
BTW Australia has always been a laughing stock, couldn't organize a root in a brothel:-)
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 09:39
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Are you seriously posting/gloating on a Professional Pilots forum about a fact that is keeping a very large amount of us out of a job ?
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 11:45
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Originally Posted by machtuk View Post
Just popped in to see/read the same prolific habitual posters saying the same bullshit/fear, love it:-)
Now where was I? Oh yeah out in the community un-vaxed & oddly enuf I'm still alive, much to the horror of those that believe I ought to be dead, several times over:-)lol
BTW Australia has always been a laughing stock, couldn't organize a root in a brothel:-)
Seriously… you think that’s a good thing? On a forum like this? You need help.
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 03:32
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There is a direct statistical correlation between individuals of low cognitive function and vaccine hesitancy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8133799/

“In conclusion, people with lower scores on standard tests of cognitive function reported being less willing to take up the future offer of vaccination for COVID-19. It is possible that erroneous social media news reports have complicated decision-making. Special efforts should be made to communicate clear information about vaccine efficacy and safety so that everyone—including those who report being less likely to choose vaccination—can make well-informed choices.”

Which group are you in? For or against? Those still pushing the it’s my right not to be vaccinated crap are effectively saying I’m a bit slow on the uptake here yet reinforce the Dunning Kruger Effect of believing their own bullish t.


Watching the moronic behaviour during the Melbourne protest yesterday, it was obvious that the cohort was at the bottom end of the gene pool when intelligence was handed out.

Im not too smart to think how smart I am but certainly not dumb enough to think I’m smart.
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 05:08
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Originally Posted by machtuk View Post
Just popped in to see/read the same prolific habitual posters saying the same bullshit/fear, love it:-)
Now where was I? Oh yeah out in the community un-vaxed & oddly enuf I'm still alive, much to the horror of those that believe I ought to be dead, several times over:-)lol
BTW Australia has always been a laughing stock, couldn't organize a root in a brothel:-)
Be careful.

We’re several months behind the rest of the world, but it will be like this soon if you don’t get vaccinated:

Sorry Anti Vaxxer

Herman Cain Award

All the people featured on those two sites thought they were safe, not elderly, not at risk, had a healthy immune system so no vaccine needed. They weren’t going to be part of a “medical experiment”, they weren’t going to be “sheep” and “blindly obey Dr Fauci and Bill Gates”. They didn’t fall victim to “big pharma” and the lies of the “lame stream media”.

And after all those posts there’s usually a post about testing positive but no need to worry as they have a “healthy immune system”. Then a post asking for Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine. Then a post from their partner or family member informing everyone that person is in hospital on a ventilator. And then the ultimate post of their demise.

This should be a wake up call, these are people aged between 30-60 who maybe healthy or have minor underlying conditions like high blood pressure or being slightly overweight (the overweight BMI is lower than you think) that a large number of people who think they’re otherwise healthy have.

Please, do the right thing by yourself, your family, your friends, your community, your workmates and your industry and get vaccinated.
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 07:58
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Nailed it
prepared to take Ivermectin but won’t get a vaccine. Natural selection folks.

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Old 24th Sep 2021, 00:25
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Nailed it
prepared to take Ivermectin but won’t get a vaccine. Natural selection folks.

https://youtu.be/aHZxOpKJ85I

Like my dad wont get vaxxed but asked me the other about using mail forwarders to get ivermectic from india
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