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Old 5th Aug 2021, 08:00
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Originally Posted by machtuk View Post
So are the serial posters here who support the lunatic Govt happy now Vict is once again being locked up?
This time next year during lockdown #15 I wonder if there will be enough of us left standing able to post? -)
Mate, no-one wants lockdowns, nobody thinks it's funny. But they are necessary, what would u rather have, 7 day lockdown or weeks and months.
It's tough we have all been through them, but what is the alternative, you tell us.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 08:35
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Originally Posted by Xeptu View Post
Mate, no-one wants lockdowns, nobody thinks it's funny. But they are necessary, what would u rather have, 7 day lockdown or weeks and months.
It's tough we have all been through them, but what is the alternative, you tell us.
Ahh get everybody vaccinated ? Whatís so hard to understand?
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 08:57
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Originally Posted by Xeptu View Post
Mate, no-one wants lockdowns, nobody thinks it's funny. But they are necessary, what would u rather have, 7 day lockdown or weeks and months.
It's tough we have all been through them, but what is the alternative, you tell us.
watch the death rate start to really bite in NSW. It's painful but necessary and no one wants to end up like NSW.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 09:05
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Tasmania has just closed its border to Victoria.

And if you go to the NT from Greater Melbourne itís 2 weeks HQ at your own expense.

This is not looking good.

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Old 5th Aug 2021, 09:18
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Australia what a country. FFS these inept premiers and PM all bickering wanting the most air time. I bet another pointless national cabinet will be held tomorrow
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 11:25
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Lockdowns havenít had any measurable benefit anywhere they were tried..masks neither..why donít you try doing something else..something that works
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 11:28
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Iím afraid Lockdowns will be around until early next year. I understand it sucks but thereís no point resisting. We are now
experiencing what pretty much every country around the world has found. No single country has controlled Delta, Iím actuallly
embarrassed we thought we could rein it in. Typical arrogant idiots that though we were the best. We lost the chance and now are
about to pay for it big time.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 11:40
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Lockdowns havenít had any measurable benefit anywhere they were tried..masks neither..why donít you try doing something else..something that works
Except everywhere in Australia that is not Sydney and surrounds.

No single country has controlled Delta, Iím actuallly
embarrassed we thought we could rein it in.
Melbourne has beat it down twice, this will be the third, WA has kept it out, as well as SA Tas and NT, and mostly QLD.

Only the state full of halfwits that can't follow simple instructions called NSW is losing it for us. And again a heap of people thinking Sydney is 'all' of Australia.

But at least there has been a few interesting posts proving maybe they should have mental asylums reopened to care for those that can't cope with the real world, especially if Dan makes any announcements.

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Old 5th Aug 2021, 11:47
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Originally Posted by 43Inches View Post
Except everywhere in Australia that is not Sydney and surrounds.



Melbourne has beat it down twice, this will be the third, WA has kept it out, as well as SA Tas and NT, and mostly QLD.

Only the state full of halfwits that can't follow simple instructions called NSW is losing it for us. And again a heap of people thinking Sydney is 'all' of Australia.

But at least there has been a few interesting posts proving maybe they should have mental asylums reopened to care for those that can't cope with the real world, especially if Dan makes any announcements.
I posted this link earlier and I doing it again.. how hard is it for these people to follow simple instructions???

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-...each/100348962
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 11:47
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Originally Posted by Angle of Attack View Post
Iím afraid Lockdowns will be around until early next year. I understand it sucks but thereís no point resisting. We are now
experiencing what pretty much every country around the world has found. No single country has controlled Delta, Iím actuallly
embarrassed we thought we could rein it in. Typical arrogant idiots that though we were the best. We lost the chance and now are
about to pay for it big time.
Pretty sure I saw it stated by the federal government that lockdowns/border closures, or various levels of them, will very likely be around for a lot longer than early next year unfortunately.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 11:50
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Originally Posted by Zeta_Reticuli View Post
This is my concern, a breakout strain will most likely result in VADE in the vaccinated. Also no one knows for sure if these strains are a result of the vaccine itself. 87% of all Delta strain patients in Israel are fully vaccinated!
You better hope that VADE does not occur when a breakout strain occurs!
Sorry, but what the hell is 'VADE'....... I've watched and read a lot about COVID and I have never seen that abbreviation. Perhaps consider carefully when using such abbreviations whether or not people will understand what you're on about....
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 12:12
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Originally Posted by Angle of Attack View Post
Iím afraid Lockdowns will be around until early next year. I understand it sucks but thereís no point resisting. We are now
experiencing what pretty much every country around the world has found. No single country has controlled Delta, Iím actuallly
embarrassed we thought we could rein it in. Typical arrogant idiots that though we were the best. We lost the chance and now are
about to pay for it big time.
So Dan brought out the same speech. It's better to have a 7 day lockdown than a 3 month lockdown.
We know now a 3 day circuit breaker is effectively a 2 week lockdown. A one week lockdown,
is effectivly a 3 week lockdown. Disregard the WHOs advice that a lockdown is only meant to bend the cure.
The Vic health experts (the best ones in the world) want to eliminate and squash. Ask a 10 yo that.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 12:25
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Elimination is done. The East Coast is stuck with yo-yo lockdowns for the rest of the year and Sydney is done for the year. This will be one of the most miserable places on earth to be in for the next half however the end is not far off folks hang in there.

19 months into this thing. 6 to run.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 12:34
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080 View Post
So Dan brought out the same speech. It's better to have a 7 day lockdown than a 3 month lockdown.
We know now a 3 day circuit breaker is effectively a 2 week lockdown. A one week lockdown,
is effectivly a 3 week lockdown. Disregard the WHOs advice that a lockdown is only meant to bend the cure.
The Vic health experts (the best ones in the world) want to eliminate and squash. Ask a 10 yo that.
Yes, but on every occasion he's said the period of time and noted it could end earlier or could go longer as the figures are monitored daily and throughout the day.

People are quick to criticize Dan Andrew's but I'd like them to point to one other Premier in this country that has accomplished what they said they would and in his case, at least one major project was ahead of schedule in late 2019 which is why the people of Victoria overwhelmingly re-elected his government at the last State election, only outstripped by the resounding victory of McGowan in WA. The difference between a Honda Civic and the WA Liberal Party is that a Honda Civic has twice as many seats.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 12:38
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Originally Posted by AerialPerspective View Post
Sorry, but what the hell is 'VADE'....... I've watched and read a lot about COVID and I have never seen that abbreviation. Perhaps consider carefully when using such abbreviations whether or not people will understand what you're on about....
Vaccine-Enhanced Disease Enhancement. The latest thing people who have no idea what they are talking about will tell you to convince themselves that the COVID vaccines are dangerous (after finding out about it on their Aunty Dorisí Facebook timeline).
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 12:45
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Originally Posted by AerialPerspective View Post
Sorry, but what the hell is 'VADE'....... I've watched and read a lot about COVID and I have never seen that abbreviation. Perhaps consider carefully when using such abbreviations whether or not people will understand what you're on about....
Vaccine-associated disease enhancement (VADE), a less commonly used term derived from the more commonly used vaccine-associated enhanced disease (VAED). It's closer to Vader, so possibly chosen as the more "sinister" alternative.

Over 4 billion SARS CoV-2 vaccine doses administered; number of reports of either antibody-dependent enhancement or vaccine-associated disease enhancement?
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 12:52
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Originally Posted by StudentInDebt View Post
Vaccine-Enhanced Disease Enhancement. The latest thing people who have no idea what they are talking about will tell you to convince themselves that the COVID vaccines are dangerous (after finding out about it on their Aunty Dorisí Facebook timeline).

Well was just about to reply, but clearly, you know the answer!
Antibody-Dependent Enhancement, induced by vaccines namely coronavirus vaccines!
First of all, I dont even have Facebook, this is the closest thing I have to social media, but yes I just randomly found this out on Aunty Doris' Facebook timeline.
Never mind what I know, but maybe you should ask yourself why some doctors are on leave for refusing to take the vaccine!

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Old 5th Aug 2021, 13:23
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Originally Posted by 43Inches View Post

Only the state full of halfwits that can't follow simple instructions called NSW is losing it for us. And again a heap of people thinking Sydney is 'all' of Australia.

And a heap of people thinking Fairfield is Ďallí of Sydney.

The media love to show evil unmasked walkers at Cronulla/Bondi/Manly, but it sure isnít those folks spreading it.

Gladysí mistake was thinking that all people are as rule abiding as her local constituents. Itís racist to have cops in Fairfield so we stick our head in the sand and hope that if Kerry Chant begs hard enough theyíll finally stay home.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 13:31
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This is taking a silly turn.

ADE can happen to any antibodies, naturally created or vaccine created.

So this year you could get Covid and next year it lets its mutant cousin in for revenge.

OR

The same could happen with a vaccine.

The main difference is that the vaccine has been made specifically to avoid ADE. ADE is not a new concept, it is understood, and is part of the trials. Any early stage vaccines that showed potential for ADE were scrubbed and the replaced.

Again, this is people reading a topic briefly, assigning it to something that they don't understand. If you really want to know, read in depth why ADE is unlikely, especially in relation to Covid vaccines.

Only a few viruses are capable of taking advantage of ADE anyway, Dengue being one of them as it rotates itself through 4 different strains, which specifically take advantage of antibodies to gain access. If Covid shows to be one of those, get set for some bad times and even more importance on not getting the virus in the first place. Anyone that knows how dengue operates and gets worse with each occurrence would know how that turns out.

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Old 5th Aug 2021, 13:42
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We are a victim of our own success. We as an island have kept as much of the virus out by closing borders. All the premiers are
now brain washed and will want zero all the time. Zero is in their DNA. Scomo wants 70% though will the states comply. That is
the question. When 70% is achieved cases will skyrocket, some will still go to hospital, ICU, though will the premiers allow that.
They have no choice to open the whole country, they need to change that DNA from zero to living with it.
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