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Old 29th Jul 2020, 04:56
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Originally Posted by Angle of Attack View Post
Not only that, these two teenagers were out and about in the SE Qld community for 8 days, most of that time infectious allegedly, Multiple Shopping Centres, Pubs, Restaurants, Churches were visited, sounds like a complete Cluster about to occur.
These two idiots were only caught because they're now in hospital... they will hardly be the only two people that managed to get around the border restrictions.

I wonder how many others there have got through?
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Old 29th Jul 2020, 05:17
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Interesting documentary about Mental Health in the Military:

https://www.cchr.org/documentaries/h...emy/watch.html

Im sure there are some parallels within Civil society. 'Mental Health' I believe is a term thrown around way too loosely.
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Old 29th Jul 2020, 06:00
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Originally Posted by Stickshift3000 View Post
Failure to comply with any VIC direction is punishable with fines only: potentially 120 penalty units for an individual; 600 for body corporate.
What a shame.
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Old 29th Jul 2020, 06:04
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Yeah that's for Victorians in VIC though, in the other states we feed them to the wildlife.
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Old 29th Jul 2020, 07:30
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Posted by normanton
Well it sounds promising that the QLD government is saying it's now a criminal matter. Send them to jail for 10 years.


In the good old days, in the 60s, hangman Henry Bolty would of done just that. In the 40s, they would of been sent to the post Nuremburg trial style.
In the 1700s in the Napoleon reign, just like witches fate, the spectacular angled slanting blade would be released on descent in the middle of Place De La Concorde and wind the clock
down to the 1400s the English Clergy would of burnt these two Vics either side of Joan of Arc. While I'm at it, lets take one more leap to the Roman Empire,
a crucifixion, we can't do that (that's a blokes only club) a stoning, maybe, though Nero was always on the lookout for pet food for his lions.



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Old 29th Jul 2020, 09:26
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Old 29th Jul 2020, 21:54
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
Well there goes any come back to aviation in 2020, QLD premier closes border 12:01 Saturday morning because two people traveled from Victoria with covid.
Hope the Qld borders remain closed forever,the state is on the verge of bankruptcy.
She can find money outside of australia to support her almost non existent economy,she has & always will use this for political points scoring & nothing else.
Never hear her mention how many tests they do daily,like Trump says,'if we dont test,the numbers will come down'.
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Old 29th Jul 2020, 22:16
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I suspect Greater Sydney was labelled a hotspot to basically make it impossible to get in To QLD by air deceitfully, closes the loophole this couple used. Basically now if you fly out of MEL via anywhere into QLD you will get caught up in mandatory Quarantine. Only loophole is driving I guess, but you have to be really determined to drive BNE to MEL and back for a week or so down there, while I don’t really agree with the total ban it’s a sledgehammer approach because of the idiots like these. 🤬
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 02:24
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what about the mining industry, that will keep QLD going. They don't need the rest of us.
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 03:02
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Originally Posted by blubak View Post
Hope the Qld borders remain closed forever,the state is on the verge of bankruptcy.
She can find money outside of australia to support her almost non existent economy,she has & always will use this for political points scoring & nothing else.
Never hear her mention how many tests they do daily,like Trump says,'if we dont test,the numbers will come down'.
We're doing fine up here thank you. You worry about your sh1thole down there.

"Only loophole is driving I guess, but you have to be really determined to drive BNE to MEL and back for a week or so down there".
Perhaps they should have taken your advice AoA - could have fitted a lot more of their alleged BV "shopping trip" in the boot.
Taking a look at some of their FB friends, I reckon they ought to be doing a bit of ISIS tracing too.....
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 03:10
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If CV-19 spreads everywhere then there will be no economy and the whole country will be back in lockdown.

What we have seen is that eradication is the only way to fully open the economy. Suppression does not work in the long term, 1 case will always become 2, becomes 4 etc...

NZ domestic demand is back up to 70% of pre covid, whats Australia ? 5 - 10%? Less?
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 03:53
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Originally Posted by jrfsp View Post
What we have seen is that eradication is the only way to fully open the economy. Suppression does not work in the long term, 1 case will always become 2, becomes 4 etc...
Agree eradication would be ideal. But the morons of society havenít changed their behaviour to facilitate this, and they never well. The ship of eradication has sailed (at least in Vic). So short of getting a chainsaw and cutting Victoria out of Australia I have no idea what the answer is and neither do the leaders.
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 04:25
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Prevention would have been better.

Vietnam managed it.

Well, until someone made a more determined effort to share it with them.
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 04:38
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Originally Posted by Green.Dot View Post
Agree eradication would be ideal. But the morons of society havenít changed their behaviour to facilitate this, and they never well. The ship of eradication has sailed (at least in Vic). So short of getting a chainsaw and cutting Victoria out of Australia I have no idea what the answer is and neither do the leaders.

these comments are unbelievable. Oh my, this thing will last a long time
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 04:58
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Originally Posted by blubak View Post
Never hear her mention how many tests they do daily,like Trump says,'if we dont test,the numbers will come down'.
Not a fan of her however regardless of whether or not she mentions how many tests are done daily it isn't a state secret. If you are really interested/concerned you can find details of the number of tests completed on the QLD COVID-19 website.

Also the Australian government health website publishes figures for the total number of tests per state.
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 05:24
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Blubak
I agree without NSW and Vic and tourism QLD is screwed.
wait till they ask for taxpayers money from the commonwealth, Vic and NSW is the powerhouse of the Australian economy.

Ragnor
Qld mining will keep the economy going in Qld, so funny
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 05:31
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Vic is testing over 17000 per 100000 Qld 8000 as of 13th July
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 05:34
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With Covid tourism is screwed - its a no brainer.
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 06:02
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NZ domestic demand is back up to 70% of pre covid, whats Australia ? 5 - 10%? Less?
NZ is a lot smaller and the Govt there had the luxury of not having to deal with 6 States and one Territory who actually control what goes on within their borders and are extremely protective of outside interference.

A lot of Australians do not realise, or refuse to believe, that the PM has very little or no control on what occurs within a State or Territory, especially where health is concerned.

The reason for greater Sydney being declaring a hot spot.
“There has been more outbreaks in other parts of Greater Sydney and that will now become another declared hot spot … effective from 1am Saturday morning and we have done that so we can give notice to Queenslanders,” Ms Palaszczuk said today.
Commissioner Carroll alleged Ms M and Ms L were "well involved" in the Melbourne party and received infringement notices while in Victoria.
She also alleged the girls spent "an awful amount of time planning how they were going to deceive and be deceitful".
Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young said one of the teens was not cooperating with authorities in providing her whereabouts while infectious.
"I am very about the second individual who has not been cooperative and has not shared with us where she has been," Dr Jeannette Young said.
"So we have not been able to contact those venues and we will continue to work with that individual and hopefully get information."
Commissioner Carroll said she was "bitterly disappointed" at their alleged actions.
Ms M and Ms L have been issued with $4000 fines and would front court, she said.
Queensland health authorities alleged the two 19-year-olds visited shops, restaurants and workplace in the state's south east over the eight days since their return.
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 08:46
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NZ domestic demand is back up to 70% of pre covid,
It's a lot easier to practice eradication (or more correctly, extreme suppression) if you are on an island the size of Victoria with less population and borders/access you can totally control.
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