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Old 20th Jul 2021, 06:03
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At least I wonít have to hide my needle tracks at the medical anymore
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 06:41
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Originally Posted by mattyj View Post
https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-delta-variant

a bit of a comparison.
New Zealand only contracted Pfizer and Israeli data is suggesting that its efficacy drops off pretty quickly against delta. Fully vaccinated people are being hospitalised now and Pfizer is talking about boosters..I got a bad feeling about this
Boosters have almost always been planned, especially in the older age brackets as their immune response is not as strong as their younger counterparts. There's a lot of ongoing research currently in what combinations of vaccines give the strongest protection.
Watch this space.
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 06:46
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Originally Posted by jrfsp View Post
i read dropping to 60% after only 6 months....not good
Anybody thinking about 60% about March last year would take that against any variant. That was the hope back then.
After all that is all your going to get when you get flu shot. What was the 4th stage Scomo ruling, we must live with this like the flu.
Don't forget you have 98.0% of not dying unvaccinated, so that figure must be higher if vaccinated.
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 06:48
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And Tasmania is now shut to South Australia. There will be nowhere left to fly soon.
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 06:52
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Originally Posted by mattyj View Post
and Israeli data is suggesting that its efficacy drops off pretty quickly against delta. Fully vaccinated people are being hospitalised now and Pfizer is talking about boosters..I got a bad feeling about this
Israeli data is suggesting vaccines are preventing serious illness from COVID. 93% versus 97% previously. Yes, more people are getting COVID with the Delta mutation. That could even make sense considering such a high percentage of the adult population vaccinated now.

You can play with stats or take a look at Israel's neighbour to see how an unvaccinated population coping. I guess Syria isn't a nation anymore, however, Lebanon is and is facing turmoil.
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 07:01
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Originally Posted by SOPS View Post
And Tasmania is now shut to South Australia. There will be nowhere left to fly soon.

Has me wondering, how many reluctant vaxers, here on this thread, have lost their flying jobs due COVID? So many seem comfortable that our economic resilience is guaranteed again.

A prolonged pandemic will get to you eventually.


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Old 20th Jul 2021, 07:49
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Originally Posted by SOPS View Post
And Tasmania is now shut to South Australia. There will be nowhere left to fly soon.
Add Queensland to that now.
My hypothetical is coming to fruition. That is, if every state/territory recorded half a dozen cases,
then closing the borders is superfluous. Everyone state is equal. It's a political border with the same surroundings either side of it.
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 09:15
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080 View Post
Add Queensland to that now.
My hypothetical is coming to fruition. That is, if every state/territory recorded half a dozen cases,
then closing the borders is superfluous. Everyone state is equal. It's a political border with the same surroundings either side of it.
And the NT.

And parts of regional NSW will now join the club into lockdown, expect the border to QLD and others will fully close now

Interestingly yesterday the USA has UPGRADED its COVID travel advisory to the highest level, backtracking on the idea of restarting transatlantic travel to the UK, seems they are increasingly worried about delta variant. The new advice from the US says: "Because of the current situation in the United Kingdom, even fully vaccinated travellers may be at risk for getting and spreading Covid-19 variants."

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Old 20th Jul 2021, 09:34
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Now Orange, country town in NSW to lockdown from midnight. How long is this madness going to continue!
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 09:36
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Originally Posted by SHVC View Post
Now Orange, country town in NSW to lockdown from midnight. How long is this madness going to continue!
I wonder if it will even get a mention by GB tomorrow, she doesnt like to go into the details
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 09:37
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I hope the UK has much success being a case study letting it rip at 70% as we will have enough trouble entering the 70s let alone waiting it out to hit the 80s. We cannot wait another year to reach a magical number to then end lockdowns.

We should have a timeframe of perhaps the end of Jan or Feb, regardless of what vaccine number we arrive at, itís then game over and it just needs to Ďripí.

We need to start preparing for the masses clogging up the Health system in 2022. Perhaps that might scare people into getting the jab. Start building make shift portable tents and morgues in preparation for the last quarter who have no interest. The scenes in Manhattan last year reminded me of a war zone.
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 09:50
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Originally Posted by jrfsp View Post
And the NT.

And parts of regional NSW will now join the club into lockdown, expect the border to QLD and others will fully close now

Interestingly yesterday the USA has UPGRADED its COVID travel advisory to the highest level, backtracking on the idea of restarting transatlantic travel to the UK, seems they are increasingly worried about delta variant. The new advice from the US says: "Because of the current situation in the United Kingdom, even fully vaccinated travellers may be at risk for getting and spreading Covid-19 variants."

i wonder if they have given approval to allow visitors who have been vaccinated with AstraZeneca. Of course it is not approved for use in the US so has not been used at all. And it was a major sticking point with negotiations with the uk. The US were refusing entry to those that had used it. That is another sticking point in opening up the world. So many vaccines which are not considered equal by any means. Especially the Chinese one. Where a lot of our inbound will be coming fromÖ
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 10:58
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Originally Posted by SHVC View Post
Now Orange, country town in NSW to lockdown from midnight. How long is this madness going to continue!
Actually it is three shires around Orange that are locked down ie Orange, Blayney, and the Cabonne Shires . The question is how long before they lock all of rural NSW, and effectively the ACT, down?
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 11:50
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 12:22
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So of all Australia, only WA and Tasmania are not in some form of lockdown the moment. How are Qantas and Virgin and any other likely to survive?

Having already cancelled 10 sectors I'm giving up...it's not worth the bother
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 12:24
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I canít believe this is the same Australia that pushed back the Japanese at Kokoda, fought at Crete and flew bombing missions over Germany.


where did some you park your balls?
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 12:31
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More Olympics farce..I wonder if the chook is walking around in a hazmat suit.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mes-Covid.html


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Old 20th Jul 2021, 12:38
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Originally Posted by minigundiplomat View Post
I canít believe this is the same Australia that pushed back the Japanese at Kokoda, fought at Crete and flew bombing missions over Germany.


where did some you park your balls?
Same Australia, different Australians. The ones at Kokoda, Crete and over Germany were a brave and great generation.
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 12:54
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We've all heard that Lord Byron saying......only this one I've modified for these times......."the premiers mark their states with ruin- their control stops with the borders"....

We are a troubled nation as in a rudderless ship, without direction, without a destination, without resolve, other than division which I see amongst these pages! -(
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 14:57
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where did some you park your balls?
Certainly not outside a vaccine clinic.
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