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Old 19th Jul 2021, 11:18
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Originally Posted by Green.Dot View Post
Not sure how many times it has to be explained that being vaccinated doesn’t mean you can’t get COVID.

What is happening in the UK right now is extremely encouraging. Cases are back through the roof but deaths and hospitalisations are ACCEPTABLY low. (Standing by for comment saying “what if it was your mother or father?”)

When Australia follows suit with a suitably vaccinated population we have a lot to look forward to towards the end of the year.
Totally agree,

but the fed and state governments (and the media) need to stop with the case numbers. They WILL go up, and the public need to understand this.
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Old 19th Jul 2021, 11:25
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Originally Posted by minigundiplomat View Post
Totally agree,

but the fed and state governments (and the media) need to stop with the case numbers. They WILL go up, and the public need to understand this.
As unpleasant as the recent outbreaks and associated lockdowns are right now for many Australians I think longer term it is probably the best thing that could have happened to us for exactly the reasons you have said.
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Old 19th Jul 2021, 11:49
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What you guys do not seem to understand is that Australia does not have the UK's vaccination rates and is not likely to any time soon but you ALL speak as though the best thing all round would be to throw the gates wide open right now.
Three more weeks and I and all of my close family and friends will have had our second A-Z. After that, you can open up whatever you like - just make sure that it's NSW first.
You might get a job with Rex for a while.
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Old 19th Jul 2021, 11:58
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Originally Posted by WingNut60 View Post
you ALL speak as though the best thing all round would be to throw the gates wide open right now..
Oh stop your sooking, no one is saying that - except maybe that bloke who eats nothing but garlic.
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Old 19th Jul 2021, 12:07
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[QUOTEYou might get a job with Rex for a while.[/QUOTE]

I’d say you even got a better outlook with Covid than with Rex.

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Old 19th Jul 2021, 12:19
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Will be interesting to see what the comments are going to be like this time next year when lockdown No 15 is being extended by the Vict lunatic! This lunacy will never end!
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Old 19th Jul 2021, 15:05
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Doesnt look like investors are believing Boris's hype....global sell off in markets around the world...biggest sell off is in travel stocks, IAG was the biggest decline on the FTSE 100
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Old 19th Jul 2021, 19:41
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Originally Posted by jrfsp View Post
Doesnt look like investors are believing Boris's hype....global sell off in markets around the world...biggest sell off is in travel stocks, IAG was the biggest decline on the FTSE 100
Stock markets these days go up and down like yo yos. The Dow can be 1000 down one day and up 1200 the next. When we see a trend and not spikes you can start worrying.
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Old 19th Jul 2021, 20:52
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Originally Posted by WingNut60 View Post
What you guys do not seem to understand is that Australia does not have the UK's vaccination rates and is not likely to any time soon but you ALL speak as though the best thing all round would be to throw the gates wide open right now.
I think most of us do understand. See post #6067 if you don’t believe me…

“Yet another Australian media scare mongering campaign almost purely focussing on case numbers. I don’t think now is the time to let COVID run its course in Aus with our currently pitiful vaccination stats but I certainly think the UK is justified in its actions.”


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Old 19th Jul 2021, 22:25
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Originally Posted by machtuk View Post
Will be interesting to see what the comments are going to be like this time next year when lockdown No 15 is being extended by the Vict lunatic! This lunacy will never end!
If you want to get mad at someone, divert your hatred towards the PM. We're in this feedback loop because of him.
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Old 19th Jul 2021, 22:48
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Originally Posted by Ladloy View Post
If you want to get mad at someone, divert your hatred towards the PM. We're in this feedback loop because of him.
And all he does is post figures that try to make his dismal failure look like a success. Guess thats what marketing people do,suck you in by throwing any facts & figures around to actually distract from the real facts.
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 01:24
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Is it a race yet?

Hope the ink isnt dry on the budget figures
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 01:52
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Originally Posted by WingNut60 View Post
That's because they have gone from an actual zero (0) on 18 May to 48,000 today.
Despite 87.9% of their adult population having had their first dose and 68.3% having had their second dose!
UUmmm....What's that about an 'actual zero (0)' on May 18??
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 02:29
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Pretty sure that zero on that date (or around it) was deaths. First zero death day since the start of the pandemic rings a bell.
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 02:48
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If you want to get mad at someone, divert your hatred towards the PM. We're in this feedback loop because of him.
We are in this "feedback loop" because all of our various government's 'leaders' - including the PM - are acting in an adversarial, politically driven manner designed to impact on the political landscape, not in the best interests of the whole Australian population. One would hope that when this pandemic is less of a hourly (minutely if there were such a word) news bite, a decision will be made by a very brave politician or two, to ensure that we react as a nation not a conglomerate of States, to deal with any future similar event.

I doubt however, there will ever be a politician with the guts to do such a thing……...
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 03:23
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West Australians in South Australia are being told to come home now.. ASAP. I think a border closure is about to happen.
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 03:42
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Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere View Post
Pretty sure that zero on that date (or around it) was deaths. First zero death day since the start of the pandemic rings a bell.
Yep, you're right. Sounds like WingNut has crossed threads...

Originally Posted by SOPS
West Australians in South Australia are being told to come home now.. ASAP. I think a border closure is about to happen.
There's still a couple of jurisdictions McGowan hasn't locked out yet, but I've no doubt he'll get there. It'd be amusing if it wasn't so disgraceful that a NZ citizen from Auckland can freely travel to WA, but an Australian citizen in Armidale cannot. Neither have had any Covid cases in their area, but I guess that's what "health advice" is...Locking out 78% of the Australian people from one of their own states, and requiring another 8.5% to quarantine when they get there. I guess the remaining 3% from Tasmania and the Territory can keep WA's interstate tourism industry going.


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Old 20th Jul 2021, 03:44
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This is becoming crazier by the day. The world is opening up and we are still in this lockdown cycle.
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 03:49
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Originally Posted by SHVC View Post
This is becoming crazier by the day. The world is opening up and we are still in this lockdown cycle.
I can’t see this way of life going away until at least December 31.

I would expect rolling Sydney leaks across August and September.
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Old 20th Jul 2021, 04:02
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https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-delta-variant

a bit of a comparison.
New Zealand only contracted Pfizer and Israeli data is suggesting that its efficacy drops off pretty quickly against delta. Fully vaccinated people are being hospitalised now and Pfizer is talking about boosters..I got a bad feeling about this
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