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Old 15th Jul 2021, 22:16
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Yes, they might be cheaper at some places. But you also need to get one before you depart the country you have visited so are at the mercy of what they charge. And if you are on holiday in a country you don’t know, you are not going to want to spend a day finding the cheapest place and then have to get there and back. You will choose the closest, easiest option.

the other points made in the video was the use of the traffic light system for counties. And how they can change overnight. Which is obviously extremely problematic. Both if you are just about to leave or if you are just about to return from one of those countries.


article here about current state of uk testing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...te-prices.html

and regarding the tests. The question arose as to what happens if you are fully vaccinated and one of your family members test positive just before you want to return. You are now stuck for two weeks, having to find and pay for accommodation and the rest and missing two weeks work.

We need to see our governments plans for the future of international travel. Because I suspect it will be a similar fiasco. And if it is anything like that, don’t expect many people to be booking holidays.

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Old 15th Jul 2021, 22:31
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
Who knew a virus would be virulent?
Anyone old enough to have done Latin? Vīrulentus, vīrulenta, vīrulentum as in vīrus (a slime or poison) + -ulentus, -ulenta, -ulentum (full of, replete). It's sort of right there on the tin.
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 22:49
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This has been an unmitigated failure of leadership starting at the top.

The pain caused to all by poor policy decisions is decimating our country.

The current loop of failure and blameshifting by our " Leaders " is simply shamefull.

Pi$$ them all off and start again.

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Old 16th Jul 2021, 01:05
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Oh "just the flu again"

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57840825

When will gladys increase the restrictions, clearly the current settings arnt working

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Old 16th Jul 2021, 01:16
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Can we please stop this.. it’s just a bad case of the flu rubbish… because It is not!!!!


And Gladys, can you please stop being stupid and do a proper lockdown. You are putting the whole country at risk.

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Old 16th Jul 2021, 01:27
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Gladys Gladys your talking out of your @rse

Further pressure on her leadership as Andrews will cycle in and out of his ‘how it’s done’ lockdown in 5 days.

Surely she will be knifed in the next year.
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Old 16th Jul 2021, 01:37
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Is it a race yet?

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Old 16th Jul 2021, 02:13
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And there goes QLD. Off limits to Victorians. But it seems NSW is still ok??!!
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Old 16th Jul 2021, 02:15
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Yesterday one of the mad cows said they have all the wastewater data from Nsw and we’re comfortable it was contained within syd. Perhaps there have been some detections in country vic?
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Old 16th Jul 2021, 02:19
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This has been an unmitigated failure of leadership starting at the top. The pain caused to all by poor policy decisions is decimating our country. The current loop of failure and blameshifting by our " Leaders " is simply shamefull.Pi$$ them all off and start again.
Who are we talking about: America, India, Brazil, Indonesia, China, South Africa, Vietnam, Malaysia, Australia or all of the above?
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Old 16th Jul 2021, 02:21
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
Gladys Gladys your talking out of your @rse

Further pressure on her leadership as Andrews will cycle in and out of his ‘how it’s done’ lockdown in 5 days.

Surely she will be knifed in the next year.
Time will tell but think anyone honestly expecting just 5 days in Vic are kidding themselves.
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Old 16th Jul 2021, 02:31
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Originally Posted by galdian
Time will tell but think anyone honestly expecting just 5 days in Vic are kidding themselves.
Quite possibly, what's becoming evident is that delta strain spreads far too quick for any states contact tracing, but going hard and fast is best option.

WA and NT did this for the delta strain and essentially did a lockdown after the 1st case almost. It still all comes back to the intl border leaks
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Old 16th Jul 2021, 02:37
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Originally Posted by ruprecht
Is it a race yet?

The race is near the end except we missed the starting gun
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Old 16th Jul 2021, 03:01
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Originally Posted by SOPS
And there goes QLD. Off limits to Victorians. But it seems NSW is still ok??!!
I think there are still some NSW AFL teams still to relocate to qld. Plus all the league wives, girlfriends and families

actually it seems the Swans at least went up yesterday. Not sure if any afl teams are outstanding as of today but the wives etc of the league players most certainly are still in nsw wanting to go to qld.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...15-p589v8.html
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Old 16th Jul 2021, 03:23
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This has been an unmitigated failure of leadership starting at the top. The pain caused to all by poor policy decisions is decimating our country. The current loop of failure and blameshifting by our " Leaders " is simply shamefull.Pi$$ them all off and start again.
The only way to fix it would be to convene Federal Parliament and pass a bill for the State Borders to be Federally Controlled. It would then be WW3 between the State Labor Parties and the Liberals. There would probably be a constitutional challenge in the High Court which could go anywhere. Canberra was angling to take control of the borders in the beginning but that was ended by the Clive Palmer Court case.
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Old 16th Jul 2021, 04:11
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Fast developing situations. As from midnight, you are not allowed to enter WA from Victoria AT ALL. Even if you are from WA. West Australians are been told to come home now!!!

I think it’s time to stop all international arrivals until proper quarantine centres can be built. Every time we get a leak, it’s from overseas. And international flight crew should be provided with facilities airside at every airport.

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Old 16th Jul 2021, 04:55
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Originally Posted by neville_nobody
The only way to fix it would be to convene Federal Parliament and pass a bill for the State Borders to be Federally Controlled. It would then be WW3 between the State Labor Parties and the Liberals. There would probably be a constitutional challenge in the High Court which could go anywhere. Canberra was angling to take control of the borders in the beginning but that was ended by the Clive Palmer Court case.
Please do yourself a favour and read the Australian Constitution.

https://www.aph.gov.au/constitution


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Old 16th Jul 2021, 04:57
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Australia looks to be joining the list of once successful countries in managing the pandemic, Taiwan, Singapore, Vietnam etc.

We become too complacent and did not proactively foresee emerging strains and change our management as appropriate....and the management have disappeared...

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Old 16th Jul 2021, 05:13
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please do yourself a favor and read the Australian Constitition
In relation to what specifically?
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Old 16th Jul 2021, 05:33
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Originally Posted by neville_nobody
In relation to what specifically?
Section 51 would be a good place to start. Anything that is not specifically listed in S.51 remains a state, rather than federal, matter. You'll note that health is not listed in S.51. Lockdowns, travel and gathering restrictions, mask mandates and the like are being dealt with by the states as directions under their respective public health acts. The High Court has already upheld the states' constitutional rights in that regard.

In any event, how would Federal legislation overriding state-based restrictions, like border closures or mask mandates, work? Those matters are being enforced, by and large, by state police. Are you going to send in the Army to stop the various state police enforcing state legislation?

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