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Old 15th Jul 2021, 06:32
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Victorian media conference at 4.45 think we all know what is coming

5 day state wide Victorian lockdown announced by Chairman Dan. Confirmed.

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Old 15th Jul 2021, 06:54
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001 View Post
This is very true, hate to say I told you so.

Like I said this madness needs to stop.
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 07:07
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist View Post
If everyone is locked in their homes, the testing rate means didly!!
Who is locked in their homes? I met a florist two days ago who thought they were an essential worker.
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 07:10
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Originally Posted by Tucknroll View Post
Who is locked in their homes? I met a florist two days ago who thought they were an essential worker.
I think funerals are still allowed,….
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 07:43
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Originally Posted by Foxxster View Post
I think funerals are still allowed,….
why were you out? Why were you meeting new people?

that’s the thing. Everyone thinks they’re essential at any time. The dudes cutting trees down around my burn think they’re essential too.

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Old 15th Jul 2021, 07:49
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Originally Posted by jrfsp View Post
SA closing to VIC and not reopening to SE QLD.

Should change this thread to "All borders to close"
Ooof…this thing just keeps from bad to worse for all commercial aviation in Australia and many of our jobs too if this continues regardless of how deep pockets may have been pre-covid.

None of our airlines will likely be immune from some more severe down sizing to stay alive so long as international travel is dead indefinitely, borders domestically close at a moments notice and punters decide its not worth leaving their state at the risk of ending up on a lockdown or even barred from getting home/to their holiday all together.

I can only speak directly for my neighbours and family, none of them plan to fly anywhere til this stuff is firmly under control and I’m pretty sure that sentiment is only growing from the loads some of my mates (who are thankfully working) have been taking lately.
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 08:02
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Well, I agree 100% even with staff travel no cost of flights with credits still remaining. My wife wanted to go on a holiday in September I didn’t want to risk loosing my money with the hotel because state border closure.

What is the solution?! Faster vaccine uptake? Will that stop the border closures? Personally the Australian mentality with the general population is they want zero, because that’s what they’ve always been told is acceptable. We need state and federal governments with some balls to get our country moving quicker as opposed to the easy “lockdown” solution after all to these premiers locking down is just a word to them it actually doesn’t cost them anything financially and mentally.
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 08:13
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What we need is greater supply (especially Pfizer), i think the vast majority of people are willing but are as yet unable to get vaccinated.

This push to reduce interval for AZ (to 4 to 6 weeks) seems to be very short sighted, yes it increases efficacy in the short term but is still reduced by 10-20% compared to the 8-12 week interval - even the UK with their covid rate did not reduce the dose interval to what we are doing (in some cases).

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n326


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Old 15th Jul 2021, 08:33
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Originally Posted by SHVC View Post
What is the solution?! Faster vaccine uptake? Will that stop the border closures? Personally the Australian mentality with the general population is they want zero, because that’s what they’ve always been told is acceptable. We need state and federal governments with some balls to get our country moving quicker as opposed to the easy “lockdown” solution after all to these premiers locking down is just a word to them it actually doesn’t cost them anything financially and mentally.
Faster Vaccine up take means taking more risks, we were warned not to treat this as the silver bullet, but clearly that's what we intend to do, should we even be calling it a vaccine since it's more a pre exposure treatment than a vaccine. What's the solution, no-one coming into Australia should be in our capital cities at all, instead directly to an isolated quarantine facility. Anyone that could be infected like international crew is isolated in all other cases. It's only a matter of time before there's a fatal strain and we seem content to just let it spread far and wide before we even know about it. We've had 18 months to do this and what have we achieved, not very much. The last round of state border closures should have been the last.
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 08:37
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Just got advised that I shared a passenger cabin* six days ago with a now confirmed case whom they reckon was infectious. Despite being fully vaccinated the right thing is to of course quarantine for the balance of the fortnight. (Not that I have a choice) I think that as long as we have half-arsed measures we will get a half-arsed result: constant cases with spikes. As soon as the rugby is resolved I expect Queensland borders to shut.

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Old 15th Jul 2021, 08:39
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Originally Posted by Xeptu View Post
Faster Vaccine up take means taking more risks, we were warned not to treat this as the silver bullet, but clearly that's what we intend to do, should we even be calling it a vaccine since it's more a pre exposure treatment than a vaccine. What's the solution, no-one coming into Australia should be in our capital cities at all, instead directly to an isolated quarantine facility. Anyone that could be infected like international crew is isolated in all other cases. It's only a matter of time before there's a fatal strain and we seem content to just let it spread far and wide before we even know about it. We've had 18 months to do this and what have we achieved, not very much. The last round of state border closures should have been the last.
And you can go work in that facilty and be isolated from the world indefinetly So far all your predictions Xeptu have amounted to garbage.
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 08:43
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Well have a look at the UK and think ahead when some international travel is allowed. Do you think people are going to be racing to book.

uk now charges for covid tests, I wonder if that will happen here. 200 pounds per person is for two quick tests required if fully vaccinated. So for a family of four that’s 800 pounds or 1,600 dollars. And if you test positive despite being vaccinated, two weeks quarantine.

one wonders if this is how it will play out here. I suspect so.

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Old 15th Jul 2021, 08:53
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Originally Posted by Cirressna View Post
And you can go work in that facilty and be isolated from the world indefinetly So far all your predictions Xeptu have amounted to garbage.
Howard Springs works perfectly. Amounts to garbage, until it's not.
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 10:59
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Tasmania is shut to Victoria.
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 11:28
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Originally Posted by Foxxster View Post
Well have a look at the UK and think ahead when some international travel is allowed. Do you think people are going to be racing to book.

uk now charges for covid tests, I wonder if that will happen here. 200 pounds per person is for two quick tests required if fully vaccinated. So for a family of four that’s 800 pounds or 1,600 dollars. And if you test positive despite being vaccinated, two weeks quarantine.so.

https://youtu.be/ZTgjIY5oEEA
UK isn’t the best place to look at the cost of COVID tests I’m told. They pay well over the odds compared to their European neighbours. My mates in EasyJet, Ryanair and BA tell me that there is plenty of demand despite this.
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 11:48
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001 View Post
Simply untrue.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...ions/100293522
This is very true, hate to say I told you so.

Like I said this madness needs to stop.
Let us be clear. It was not true when posted. It became true 24 hours later.
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 12:58
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And in the meantime.. all is good with the AFL and NRL and the Olympics.

The above is madness !!
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 13:48
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Originally Posted by Foxxster View Post
uk now charges for covid tests, I wonder if that will happen here. 200 pounds per person is for two quick tests required if fully vaccinated.
Not quite correct, the UK does not charge for test's. You are required to have a test at one of the designated providers (of which there are many). The costs of the PCR test (required on day 2) has plummeted and can be as low as Ł42 per test.
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 13:55
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Regarding welcome back to the party pal. Us Vics couldn't resist. Why should NSW have all the lime light and Claytons. That's according to PHA-Public Health Advice
Lockdown 5 was inaugurated today to show how to drive the beast into the ground. While NSW have found a new actress that's about to do a Linda Blair, Vic is about to get the charts back with hits like 'I was only Covid 19' and 'Covid on the storm'. This will be punched out while you order a burger/coke, 'oh would you like an AZ/Pfizer with that'.
What about these other tight ass states. Miserable bastards, party poopers. Just like leaving the bar and it's your shout.
Don't tell me your PHAs have obtained proper medicals degrees. Well Vic/Nsw PHAs got theirs from the good old corn flakes packet.
Bring on the next press conference, I want plenty of "according to Public Health Advice" mentions.
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Old 15th Jul 2021, 14:00
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According to health advice, my gentleman regions are too warm, so from today on I'm going to walk around butt naked. And no I do not have to show proof of medical examption to wear pants.

Seriously is there no leader with a proper backbone in this country.
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