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Old 26th Jun 2021, 11:18
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Originally Posted by stickshaken View Post
Can’t believe dickheads like you think,
this experimental vaccine is a vaccine.
Vaccines take many many years to prove there worth over time, that there are NO long term risks or life long side effects.

But this so called vaccine doesn’t work anyway.
we already know that getting covid has long lasting effects to some people. Shortness of breaath, brain fog, heart and lung issues, permanent loss of taste and smell. Even if you take the line that it's experimental, which is incorrect, it's the lesser of the evils.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 11:24
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OK so there are a few people in hospital with COVID, they may have just been put in there as a precaution, but I guess that’s a big deal considering there are around 10000 people hospitalised in Australia at any one time. We have become a nation of Wimps, that avoid any risk at all, it’s pathetic.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 11:50
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Originally Posted by Angle of Attack View Post
OK so there are a few people in hospital with COVID, they may have just been put in there as a precaution, but I guess that’s a big deal considering there are around 10000 people hospitalised in Australia at any one time. We have become a nation of Wimps, that avoid any risk at all, it’s pathetic.
Nothing like being a 'wimp'. This isn't like sending your kids to chickenpox party, this is a disease that kills, that messes up all your health services, costs a lot of money (more than not having it running rife) and destroys your economy.

Those few people in the hospital with COVID are there to stop others ending up there too, not very wimpish being on a ventilator.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 11:57
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Originally Posted by stickshaken View Post
Vaccines take many many years to prove there worth over time, that there are NO long term risks or life long side effects.
I suggest you look up MRNA vaccines, which will explain to you why they were capable of producing the covid vaccinations so quickly, and why there is such confidence in their effectiveness (but we all know that you won't). Look up the difference between there/their/they're at the same time.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 12:04
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AoA

i just don’t understand your logic. If the disease runs rampant and the hospitals fill up with COVID patients, what happens to the 10,000 normal every day patients. Do they all get better whilst COVID runs its course, or do they die due to lack of resources. Look at Brazil, look at India and look at the US and Italy earlier on. People dying everywhere due to a lack of beds, 1000’s per day, remember. Or is it all staged fake news (to paraphrase an idiot)??????
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 12:17
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Originally Posted by stickshaken View Post
But this so called vaccine doesn’t work anyway.
Do explain…
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 13:37
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Oh they work alright..they work just fine..doing exactly what they’re designed to do..you just take your medicine like a good boy and shush ya mouth!
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 14:00
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Originally Posted by mattyj View Post
Oh they work alright..they work just fine..doing exactly what they’re designed to do..you just take your medicine like a good boy and shush ya mouth!
The ironic thing is if the Australian public took that sarcastic comment seriously we’d be in a position similar to Singapore now, well on the way out of this pandemic.

Instead a hesitant public took your nonsense comments seriously and here we are.....
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 14:05
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Originally Posted by turbantime View Post
Do explain…
They never ever will. Or they’ll post a link to a rubbish anti-vax website where “the truth” about vaccines will be “exposed” alongside articles about chemtrails, QAnon and 5G.

Anti-vaxxers posting here are just trolls, getting a kick out of winding people up who are very down at the moment.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 14:35
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I really worry about these people who think the vaccine does not work. I wait to see any real proof. (I’m sure there is not any).
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 14:50
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-...tive/100247100

the good news keeps coming
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 21:35
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Originally Posted by stickshaken View Post
Can’t believe dickheads like you think,
this experimental vaccine is a vaccine.
Vaccines take many many years to prove there worth over time, that there are NO long term risks or life long side effects.

But this so called vaccine doesn’t work anyway.
Experimental???? Please provide your insight. As far as I’m aware all the vaccines in use in Australia have TGA approval. The reason we are in this mess is people like you thinking the vaccine has to be in development for for many yrs to be any good, news flash pal half of this vaccine was already developed and because it had the worlds money thrown at it it was able to be devolved in 12 months.

I hope you’re not one of the D!ckheads complaining about lockdowns, stand downs, loosing your job, border closure, loosing family a friend or a Neighbour to suicide because of this. You could easily get vaccinated and help get this country going again.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 22:55
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Heard on radio this morning …

Family party at Hoxton Park:
* 5 who were fully vaccinated did not contact COVID
* 5 of the 10 others contracted COVID.

Very small case study but a good indicator why ‘everyone’ needs to get a vaccination.

Being vaccinated cerianly seems to reduce the risk.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 22:58
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Originally Posted by SHVC View Post
Experimental???? Please provide your insight. As far as I’m aware all the vaccines in use in Australia have TGA approval. The reason we are in this mess is people like you thinking the vaccine has to be in development for for many yrs to be any good, news flash pal half of this vaccine was already developed and because it had the worlds money thrown at it it was able to be devolved in 12 months.

I hope you’re not one of the D!ckheads complaining about lockdowns, stand downs, loosing your job, border closure, loosing family a friend or a Neighbour to suicide because of this. You could easily get vaccinated and help get this country going again.
It would be interesting to find out what the qualifications are of these people who constantly question the development & effectiveness of the vaccine & also many other things such as the wearing of face masks etc.
Talking about dickheads complaining,i was at a local footy match yesterday & behind me were 2 women telling everyone around them how their business was so badly affected by lockdown & how they got no govt assistance yet in the next breath 1 of them said how ridiculous it was having to wear a mask & no one was going to make her wear 1 & then the other woman told me she wouldnt be getting the jab as it was her right not to.
Idiots like these 2 is what we are up against.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 23:04
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Originally Posted by layman View Post
Heard on radio this morning …

Family party at Hoxton Park:
* 5 who were fully vaccinated did not contact COVID
* 5 of the 10 others contracted COVID.

Very small case study but a good indicator why ‘everyone’ needs to get a vaccination.

Being vaccinated cerianly seems to reduce the risk.
Plus their 5G reception is excellent.

I’m growing weary of the vaccination ‘debate’ in this country. Maybe we need a new government slogan:

”Get vaccinated, you f*cking retard”
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 23:05
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I really don’t know why we are having this Sydney wide and even wider, central coast, blue mountains and Wollongong lockdown. According to some demographer people in Sydney don’t move outside their immediate area because of rivers and harbours etc. Maybe the health experts should have spoken to him first and we could have avoided all this.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 23:38
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https://www.travelpulse.com/news/des...trictions.html
https://www.cntraveler.com/story/us-...t-quarantining

Stick with it Australia your plan is going well. You should be able travel again in 2056.

FFS, people need to wake up and research wtf is happening outside the political/media cocoon we now find ourselves in.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 23:40
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That does make sense, however the greater issue is the other states closing off to SY and like SA and WA to the whole state. Wish Sco Mo would do an election now he has lost my vote the race he said wasn’t a race was actually a race and he lost big time.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 00:05
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Originally Posted by SHVC View Post
That does make sense, however the greater issue is the other states closing off to SY and like SA and WA to the whole state. Wish Sco Mo would do an election now he has lost my vote the race he said wasn’t a race was actually a race and he lost big time.
The announcement of the election date will coincide with the extra Pfizer vaccines arriving later this year, and the narrative will be how “we have kept Australia safe”, and now “it’s time to consider opening up”. The ALP will not be able to argue against this because they will be painted as either “killing grandma”, or “killing business”.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 01:04
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It’s pretty simple; the spike protein in the virus causes much of the ill effects of the virus..the spike protein is also in all the mRNA vaccines. Take them if you feel you should, your body your choice. There’s a definite risk reward calculation that has age and illnesses in the formula.

the data I’m reading is that young men are definitely not advised to get one of the mRNA vaccines.
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