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The risk here is probably different compared to previous outbreaks as the Delta is ripping across the UK doubling cases every 10 days, as they re commence the upward trend on the graphs again.
If people walk past each other in stores and pickup the Delta which is what went on in Myer here, then it will be seeding all over the city. We won’t really know for another week or two.
Masks indoors will prevent much of that. Delta is a prick of thing to contain once seeding commences.
If people walk past each other in stores and pickup the Delta which is what went on in Myer here, then it will be seeding all over the city. We won’t really know for another week or two.
Masks indoors will prevent much of that. Delta is a prick of thing to contain once seeding commences.
This means the cases can rise, BUT the hospitalisation rate now becomes the key figure. If their health system can cope because the numbers in hospital is dramatically lower, no need for another lockdown.
Stop stressing about the “cases” and look at home many are actually in hospital.
Picking the last day data is available for both (June 14th). Versus a random day in May:
Daily hospitalisations:
May 8th - 109
June 14th - 221 (a 202% increase)
Daily COVID cases:
May 8th - 1986
June 14th - 7742 (a 390% increase)
Both of these figures are coming off a low base, HOWEVER….
It’s still clear that the high number of vaccinated people in the UK is making a big difference. Plenty of evidence from Israel that vaccines work in reducing the severity of COVID as well.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
Hospitalisations in the UK.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Current daily cases.
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I get that, and the point I was making is we are two different worlds. In these places that are approaching herd immunity, Delta can rip across and lockdowns or restrictions are not needed. Huge positive that the vaccine still prevents people with the Delta getting very sick. Unfortunately we don’t have that luxury.
We are a vulnerable country for what will probably be the next few quarters, Delta can rip across our land and cause all sorts of problems.
We are a vulnerable country for what will probably be the next few quarters, Delta can rip across our land and cause all sorts of problems.
[size=13px]Penny pinching over a vaccine. If you’re in aviation and voted for these muppets than you get what you deserve I guess. “But..but.. Labor!!”. Yeah sure, they’re a pain in the arse managing the state borders but I bet we wouldn’t be where we are now if they were in control of the vaccine supply. Mainly due to them doing what half of you usually whinge about; spending money.[/size]
“Three sources told Swan that the Federal Government sent an inexperienced procurement officer to the meeting who “started nickel and diming on the costs”.
Pfizer had allegedly wanted to make an example out of Australia about how to properly conduct a vaccine rollout, similarly to how Israeli handled theirs. Instead, the Federal Government came back in November 2020 and ordered only 10 million doses of Pfizer.”
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/gover...-in-july-2020/
“Three sources told Swan that the Federal Government sent an inexperienced procurement officer to the meeting who “started nickel and diming on the costs”.
Pfizer had allegedly wanted to make an example out of Australia about how to properly conduct a vaccine rollout, similarly to how Israeli handled theirs. Instead, the Federal Government came back in November 2020 and ordered only 10 million doses of Pfizer.”
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/gover...-in-july-2020/
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I get that, and the point I was making is we are two different worlds. In these places that are approaching herd immunity, Delta can rip across and lockdowns or restrictions are not needed. Huge positive that the vaccine still prevents people with the Delta getting very sick. Unfortunately we don’t have that luxury.
We are a vulnerable country for what will probably be the next few quarters, Delta can rip across our land and cause all sorts of problems.
We are a vulnerable country for what will probably be the next few quarters, Delta can rip across our land and cause all sorts of problems.
All this talk of travel bubbles and foreign students coming in just a distraction from the fact the vaccine rollout is to slow.
Oh but it’s “not a race”…….. 🤬🤮🤦♂️
I get that, and the point I was making is we are two different worlds. In these places that are approaching herd immunity, Delta can rip across and lockdowns or restrictions are not needed. Huge positive that the vaccine still prevents people with the Delta getting very sick. Unfortunately we don’t have that luxury.
We are a vulnerable country for what will probably be the next few quarters, Delta can rip across our land and cause all sorts of problems.
We are a vulnerable country for what will probably be the next few quarters, Delta can rip across our land and cause all sorts of problems.
We are quickly becoming a very scared little irrelevant country that has been backed into a corner by poor leadership and decision making.
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I think if we’re honest with ourselves, this process has been in motion since Rudd was knifed the first time.
Not commenting on Labor/Rudd per se, but since then both parties have been playing the same games and the result is the “best” government we can get…
Australia needs a reform program and a way forward that weans us off relying on high rates of immigration to hide our lack of progress.
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“Rip”, “ripping”,“delta strain”,“cases”….. spare me, do you work for the ABC or something
total hysteria..the vaccine is more dangerous than the delta strain if you’re younger than 60
total hysteria..the vaccine is more dangerous than the delta strain if you’re younger than 60
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a 59 year old?? Absolutely not
Hopefully you don't get your news from Sky News. They're too busy saying sorry for spouting blatant lies.
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Apologies to the snowflakes who get upset at such language.
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Well more pain for airlines over the school holidays with cases popping up everywhere but on the positive side this will do wonders for vaccination uptake across the country. (Hopefully).
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As a 30yo I booked a vaccine slot at the start of the month with less than a weeks notice at a major vaccination center with the second jab locked in prior to the end of the month. Took me all of two minutes.
From an Age article a few days ago:”Vaccination walk-ins were halted on Monday with people told to wait until the end of the week as the state government cut the number of Victorians able to get the Pfizer jab as part of the state’s vaccine rollout.
Almost three weeks after the state’s rollout of the Pfizer vaccine was extended to 40 to 49-year-olds, supply caps meant people were unable to make phone bookings for their first dose and those who walked up to mass vaccination hubs were turned away.”
Almost three weeks after the state’s rollout of the Pfizer vaccine was extended to 40 to 49-year-olds, supply caps meant people were unable to make phone bookings for their first dose and those who walked up to mass vaccination hubs were turned away.”
