All borders to reopen.

[currawong]

"Despite being close to China, Taiwan has stopped the COVID-19 with general screening strategy and encouraging people in Taiwan to wear a mask"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7270822/

I would hasten to add that disregarding information coming from China and the WHO in the early stages seems to have played a role in their success...

[Turnleft080]

You Tube

Since this is a youtube day
We gonna mask you all the way
Do you think Dan is making a lie
Of course not we want you to mentally die.

[Turnleft080]

Originally Posted by Australopithecus

Turnleft080...

Also...your assertion that a gas permeable mask somehow reduces your O2 intake is as astonishing as it is wrong.

https://www.technocracy.news/blayloc...o-the-healthy/

Australopithecus: Again, we need all the O2 we can get. Why block it. It's your life support.

[dr dre]

Originally Posted by Turnleft080

Since this is a youtube day
We gonna mask you all the way
Do you think Dan is making a lie
Of course not we want you to mentally die.

Countries in east Asia where mask wearing is prominent and cases per 1 million people:
Vietnam 4
Taiwan 19
Thailand 46
China 58
Japan 191
Hong Kong 237
South Korea 268
Malaysia 271

Now some selected non East Asian countries:
Germany 2417
Italy 4039
UK 4331
Russia 5245
Israel 5367
Sweden 7650
USA 11577
Chile 17195

So whatever East Asian countries are doing its undeniable they’re doing better than comparable first world Western countries. And part of this must be related to greater acceptance of mask wearing, which was prominent culturally in Asia even before this pandemic.

Asian collectivist mindset and greater emphasis on social wellbeing rather than western culture of individual rights and resistance to authority may be the explanation.

So whilst some here may say mask wearing is the sign of a dictator enforcing brutal authority on the populace, those of more Asian mindset will probably say it’s the sign of effective government leadership and a society all willing to chip in for the greater good.

[Turnleft080]

So whilst some here may say mask wearing is the sign of a dictator enforcing brutal authority on the populace, those of more Asian mindset will probably say it’s the sign of effective government leadership and a society all willing to chip in for the greater good.[/QUOTE]

During BLM they wanted to change the name of the state of Victoria.
People's Not so Democratic Socialist Republic of Danastan.

Right I want you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, and you please come over here.
That will be a $200 fine for being maskless. You do not have the right for appeal. It must be paid in 48 hours.
Do I make myself clear.

[currawong]

If it means the airline pilots can get their jobs back, I'll do it.

[HabuHunter]

Originally Posted by dr dre

Countries in east Asia where mask wearing is prominent and cases per 1 million people:
Vietnam 4
Taiwan 19
Thailand 46
China 58
Japan 191
Hong Kong 237
South Korea 268
Malaysia 271

Now some selected non East Asian countries:
Germany 2417
Italy 4039
UK 4331
Russia 5245
Israel 5367
Sweden 7650
USA 11577
Chile 17195

So whatever East Asian countries are doing its undeniable they’re doing better than comparable first world Western countries. And part of this must be related to greater acceptance of mask wearing, which was prominent.

Dr Dre, you can’t use those statistics to say the reason must be related to mask wearing. It may or it may not be the case.
Off the top of my head I can think of a couple of reasons that might explain why Asia is fairing better. First off, it’s known that sunlight affects the lifespan of the virus, most of Asia is in the tropics, maybe that’s why? Or the fact that most of the Asian countries have a much younger population than the western countries. The point is, we don’t really know why Asia in general is fairing pretty well. It’s probably a combination of things which together have helped out, and may or may not include masks.

[Turnleft080]

Originally Posted by currawong

If it means the airline pilots can get their jobs back, I'll do it.

Come Thursday I think it means I'm going to have a criminal record.

[thisishardtochoose]

Originally Posted by Turnleft080

So whilst some here may say mask wearing is the sign of a dictator enforcing brutal authority on the populace, those of more Asian mindset will probably say it’s the sign of effective government leadership and a society all willing to chip in for the greater good.

During BLM they wanted to change the name of the state of Victoria.
People's Not so Democratic Socialist Republic of Danastan.

Right I want you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, and you please come over here.
That will be a $200 fine for being maskless. You do not have the right for appeal. It must be paid in 48 hours.
Do I make myself clear.[/QUOTE]

I certainly hope no one has to ever deal with you inside a cockpit ever again. Grow the f up.

[ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE]

Originally Posted by Turnleft080

Come Thursday I think it means I'm going to have a criminal record.

I think you’ll find that after Thursday when you go to the supermarket and 80-90% of people are wearing masks, it’ll be an odd feeling not to be wearing one.

Pretty strong WHO data that wearing masks cuts transmission of the virus dramatically.

1.5% transmission rate between 2 people if they’re both wearing a mask is the stat I heard on the radio.

[Turnleft080]

I certainly hope no one has to ever deal with you inside a cockpit ever again. Grow the f up.[/QUOTE]

People that swear and abuse in a flight deck, line up the last piece of swiss cheese.

[Rashid Bacon]

Wuhan Dan, two standards Dan, Dan Danastan - whatever you call him, he has completely missed the boat. Telling everyone to accept responsibility while not publicly taking it himself. His stuff ups have effectively closed down a large part of this country rather than opening it up.

[Ragnor]

Real questions here are, does Victoria have millions of mask on hand for people to purchase and the shops that sold a mask yesterday for $2 will that mask still be $2 tomorrow! Demand will strip out supply here

[thisishardtochoose]

Originally Posted by Rashid Bacon

Wuhan Dan, two standards Dan, Dan Danastan - whatever you call him, he has completely missed the boat. Telling everyone to accept responsibility while not publicly taking it himself. His stuff ups have effectively closed down a large part of this country rather than opening it up.

What would you like dan to do? There's no playbook for dealing with Pandemics, I sincerely hope we never have to go through one of these ever again but cut the man some slack. Not one other person would want to be in his position right now.

[SOPS]

Originally Posted by Rashid Bacon

Wuhan Dan, two standards Dan, Dan Danastan - whatever you call him, he has completely missed the boat. Telling everyone to accept responsibility while not publicly taking it himself. His stuff ups have effectively closed down a large part of this country rather than opening it up.

And he told everyone to stay at home. Now he is forcing people out to queue up to by masks. He has lost control of this, big time!!!

[thisishardtochoose]

Originally Posted by Ragnor

Real questions here are, does Victoria have millions of mask on hand for people to purchase and the shops that sold a mask yesterday for $2 will that mask still be $2 tomorrow! Demand will strip out supply here

From what Dan said in the press conference, state has ordered 2 million masks, with the first shipment to arrive this week. These will be handed out to workplaces with urgent need as they arrive (please someone with more information correct me if I am wrong)

[Ragnor]

I didn’t listen to the conference. 2 million! Hopefully he has another 2 million on order for end of the week, they don’t seem very durable. This should of happened a week ago, I feel NSW should also follow suit now hit it hard from the start not allowing numbers to increase to a level where VIC is now.

[Australopithecus]

Originally Posted by thisishardtochoose

What would you like dan to do? There's no playbook for dealing with Pandemics, I sincerely hope we never have to go through one of these ever again but cut the man some slack. Not one other person would want to be in his position right now.

why sure there is. Attached is the playbook commissioned by the Obama administration which shouldn’t be too hard to adopt to local needs. Of course the idiot Trump ignored all of it because: Obama

https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...c-Playbook.pdf

[normanton]

Originally Posted by thisishardtochoose

What would you like dan to do? There's no playbook for dealing with Pandemics, I sincerely hope we never have to go through one of these ever again but cut the man some slack. Not one other person would want to be in his position right now.

You mean the same guy who stood in front of the media and said "why would you want to go to SA"?

The same guy who told everyone not to go to Anzac day, but then allowed thousands to protest for the black lives matter movement? Not only allowed it, but directly said no one will be fined.

The same guy who allowed private security guards to monitor hotel quarantine guests?

The list goes on! He should have been sacked months ago.

[Turnleft080]

Originally Posted by thisishardtochoose

What would you like dan to do? There's no playbook for dealing with Pandemics, I sincerely hope we never have to go through one of these ever again but cut the man some slack. Not one other person would want to be in his position right now.

What can Dan do. Lockdown the sick, and get the healthy back to work. I have been saying that since March.
With this new mask policy, all borders, all states, should open up on Thursday. If they don't what are we waiting for?
Four more weeks of this, people are starting to bleed from the inside. I'm starting to crack myself. Sorry if I upset you though I'm over this.