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Getting back to the borders....the issue remains if VIC/NSW pursue an suppression strategy, the borders to the other states will not open while they have elimination. We need to have a whole country solution.
Would all the “it’s not a bad virus” people mind going and getting infected, then tell us about the aftermath and whether you’re still able to maintain a class 1 medical?
Because I certainly don’t want to follow your idea of just letting it run rampant, getting it, then finding that perhaps your ‘science’ (Pilots, we’re experts in everything right, just ask us) is incorrect and I’m now not able to keep my Class 1.
I don’t think our colleague in Vietnam who spent months on a ventilator (I think he was a fairly healthy bloke beforehand) and ECMO, would quite agree with the idea of letting it run rampant, especially now that his lungs are probably ruined for the rest of his life and unlikely to ever fly again.
Just have a think about all that.....
Because I certainly don’t want to follow your idea of just letting it run rampant, getting it, then finding that perhaps your ‘science’ (Pilots, we’re experts in everything right, just ask us) is incorrect and I’m now not able to keep my Class 1.
I don’t think our colleague in Vietnam who spent months on a ventilator (I think he was a fairly healthy bloke beforehand) and ECMO, would quite agree with the idea of letting it run rampant, especially now that his lungs are probably ruined for the rest of his life and unlikely to ever fly again.
Just have a think about all that.....
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ex ABC: I covered America's coronavirus outbreak for months. Then I caught.....
Shall 'just' leave, this here (and not engage, lock & load):
Link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...erica/12414554
Rgds all/be well!!!
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Link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...erica/12414554
Rgds all/be well!!!
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55? Really? Couple of months ago you told us you were 60. ----- Sorry about my fluctuations depends on how I'm feeling in morning. Knee joints are 30. Off for a run.
Gone back to pilot school yet? ----- I'm thrusting on beautifully always looking for a lift though sick and tired of those that want to weigh me down and drag me in the mud.
Or do you still think 20% less oxygen is -well, you know the rest. ------ If only our lungs could speak- STOP GAGGING ME YOU DRONGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will Dan wear a musk. Now that's a good Q&A.
Gone back to pilot school yet? ----- I'm thrusting on beautifully always looking for a lift though sick and tired of those that want to weigh me down and drag me in the mud.
Or do you still think 20% less oxygen is -well, you know the rest. ------ If only our lungs could speak- STOP GAGGING ME YOU DRONGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will Dan wear a musk. Now that's a good Q&A.
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1. Masks- should only be worn if you have or tested positive with covid. If you have 100 people tested negative masks are pointless.
Additionally they reduce your O2 by 20% because your recycling some of your CO2 which is a by product (waste) once the red blood cells have finished it's job of transporting O2.
Hence all your body organs are getting 20% less O2. Well that's really good for your brain.
If you get sneezed on your mask is supposed to protect you. Like hell. Your hair, ears, forehead, neck, shoulders, shirt, pants, are totally coated with the virus.
Then you touch your mask, enough said. Don't forget your swimming goggles if you wear a musk, tear ducts absorb everything that's in front of you.
Minor points they mentally drag you down, can't see your lips move while talking, and you feel claustrophobic adding emotional stress.
2. Social distancing- Who came up with 1.5m. Really WHO came up with this shizen. If you sneeze in still air your particles will travel 5-7m they are released at 200kph.
Kylie Mole/Billie Eilish "der."
Absolutely people should be wearing masks to prevent such situations. Not 24/7 but definitely in crowded places and in close contact. The lack of O2 and CO2 buildup fake news has been debunked time and time again.
If sensible mask wearing and distancing (1.5-2m is enough for non-sneeze particles) can be implemented, you can keep the spread at bay without going full lockdown.
Flatten the curve without shutting down society.
The virus doesn't appear to be that bad compared to whats already getting around, except for the rapid spread causing a breakdown in the healthcare system.
Locking down borders forever is not sustainable. NZ is going to be hit very hard if they keep it up.
Countries and states should be opening up to places with similar levels of success in controlling the virus in their populations through practical measures, ie, social distancing and masks, etc.
It doesn't need to be zero.
That said I doubt Australians and Kiwis can adapt to wearing masks that are there to help others and are not for their own benefit.
People will go as far as to spread bull**** like O2 levels an CO2 concentrations to avoid it.
How dare we interfere with god's own perfectly designed respiratory system? (They say wearing clothes and sunscreen interfering with god's own perfectly designed skin)
We aren't good at frequent hand washing.
I still saw someone at Woolies, in the midst of this outbreak and well before it was under control, rub their nose on fruit in order to give it a really good sniff and make sure it was ripe...
Thus the huge initial spike we saw pre-lockdown that had us on a trajectory like that of Italy or the US.
I was against the lockdown, but if we cant adapt......
We need to change and adapt and learn to live WITH it to keep the curve flattened until its done the rounds and/or a vaccine is developed, or the alternative it to just build a big wall around the country to keep out those infected foreigners and forget tourism or business travel altogether for a couple of years.
I’ll just leave this here....
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...weeks/12444716
Anyone concerned about contracting this and then possibly not being able to maintain a medical? I know I am. Run rampant? No thanks.
There’s a great bunch of clowns in here that make themselves think they have degrees in medicine and epidemiology.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...weeks/12444716
Anyone concerned about contracting this and then possibly not being able to maintain a medical? I know I am. Run rampant? No thanks.
There’s a great bunch of clowns in here that make themselves think they have degrees in medicine and epidemiology.
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Morno. My only concern for this women, as I read through the article was hoping I get to the part on what drugs she was administered throughout her 3 months.
At no stage throughout the article a doctor or a epidemiologist actually indicted or (she didn't say what she was taking) to recover from this thing.
She was blasé initially though i.e. she was fine, it will probably pass because I'm 31 and healthy.
Well if that was me I would very seriously nuke the bastard, no not sudafed it I'm talking 20 raw cloves of garlic chopped in half and swallow. Not all at once, over a day with food.
Plus 4 litres of water. This thing dehydrates you fast.
I know I'm not a med expert or an epidemiologist as you mentioned though that's what I would do. I would give it a shot see how it goes. With flu I always win.
I know covid is not the flu but the way I treat the very first symptom of URTI is garlic. In today's environment I would 10 fold the problem.
If you want to grill me or think I'm a nut case I can take that.
Theirs like 15 health benefits in taking garlic everyday.
Anyway glad she is recovering.
Good health everyone.
At no stage throughout the article a doctor or a epidemiologist actually indicted or (she didn't say what she was taking) to recover from this thing.
She was blasé initially though i.e. she was fine, it will probably pass because I'm 31 and healthy.
Well if that was me I would very seriously nuke the bastard, no not sudafed it I'm talking 20 raw cloves of garlic chopped in half and swallow. Not all at once, over a day with food.
Plus 4 litres of water. This thing dehydrates you fast.
I know I'm not a med expert or an epidemiologist as you mentioned though that's what I would do. I would give it a shot see how it goes. With flu I always win.
I know covid is not the flu but the way I treat the very first symptom of URTI is garlic. In today's environment I would 10 fold the problem.
If you want to grill me or think I'm a nut case I can take that.
Theirs like 15 health benefits in taking garlic everyday.
Anyway glad she is recovering.
Good health everyone.
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Morno. My only concern for this women, as I read through the article was hoping I get to the part on what drugs she was administered throughout her 3 months.
At no stage throughout the article a doctor or a epidemiologist actually indicted or (she didn't say what she was taking) to recover from this thing.
She was blasé initially though i.e. she was fine, it will probably pass because I'm 31 and healthy.
Well if that was me I would very seriously nuke the bastard, no not sudafed it I'm talking 20 raw cloves of garlic chopped in half and swallow. Not all at once, over a day with food.
Plus 4 litres of water. This thing dehydrates you fast.
I know I'm not a med expert or an epidemiologist as you mentioned though that's what I would do. I would give it a shot see how it goes. With flu I always win.
I know covid is not the flu but the way I treat the very first symptom of URTI is garlic. In today's environment I would 10 fold the problem.
If you want to grill me or think I'm a nut case I can take that.
Theirs like 15 health benefits in taking garlic everyday.
Anyway glad she is recovering.
Good health everyone.
At no stage throughout the article a doctor or a epidemiologist actually indicted or (she didn't say what she was taking) to recover from this thing.
She was blasé initially though i.e. she was fine, it will probably pass because I'm 31 and healthy.
Well if that was me I would very seriously nuke the bastard, no not sudafed it I'm talking 20 raw cloves of garlic chopped in half and swallow. Not all at once, over a day with food.
Plus 4 litres of water. This thing dehydrates you fast.
I know I'm not a med expert or an epidemiologist as you mentioned though that's what I would do. I would give it a shot see how it goes. With flu I always win.
I know covid is not the flu but the way I treat the very first symptom of URTI is garlic. In today's environment I would 10 fold the problem.
If you want to grill me or think I'm a nut case I can take that.
Theirs like 15 health benefits in taking garlic everyday.
Anyway glad she is recovering.
Good health everyone.
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It turns out 428 cases. Just another point of view. Split the group. Put 214 on my garlic extravaganza and place 214 on standard medications.
Which group would recover faster.
Which group would recover faster.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12348849Covid 19 coronavirus: Winston Peters takes aim at Australia over virus 'looseness'
Covid 19 coronavirus: Winston Peters takes aim at Australia over virus 'looseness'
To be fair we have an election in 63 days
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Dozens of research institutes and private companies working feverishly on vaccines and therapies, and the answer was in the bottom of our pantries and being added to our lattes all along...
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The Premier of SA spoke to the media tonight and said he will have his borders closed, on his words, for a very very long time to Victoria and NSW. I read this as months not weeks.
His first case in nearly three weeks of nothing, today, was none other than a Jetstar pax that flew in from Melbourne.
Looks like SA will join QLD with a monitoring period post lockdown of 4-8 weeks watching Victoria and see if they can handle it.
It appears that August to October the dial is not going to shift much at all on the capacity front. Hopefully the thing washes away in the back end of this timeframe so we can start opening up from November otherwise the ramifications are financially dire for the industry if we don’t. Anastasia is clearly going to play hardball with the southern states in terms of reopening.
His first case in nearly three weeks of nothing, today, was none other than a Jetstar pax that flew in from Melbourne.
Looks like SA will join QLD with a monitoring period post lockdown of 4-8 weeks watching Victoria and see if they can handle it.
It appears that August to October the dial is not going to shift much at all on the capacity front. Hopefully the thing washes away in the back end of this timeframe so we can start opening up from November otherwise the ramifications are financially dire for the industry if we don’t. Anastasia is clearly going to play hardball with the southern states in terms of reopening.
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