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Old 9th Mar 2021, 06:58
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Originally Posted by layman View Post
Quarantine for international arrivals.

A friend of a friend of a friend (it is a rumour network) heard that DFAT are working on quarantine possibly being required for a further 18 months to 2 years.

Hopefully not (& needs to be verified) but something to keep in mind
It is clearly a very popular policy. Why not keep it going forever? Keeps out all ailments and everyone in Oz can spend their hard earned in Oz. What's not to like?!
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Old 9th Mar 2021, 07:39
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Originally Posted by layman View Post
Quarantine for international arrivals.

A friend of a friend of a friend (it is a rumour network) heard that DFAT are working on quarantine possibly being required for a further 18 months to 2 years.

Hopefully not (& needs to be verified) but something to keep in mind
I think most would assume the current level of quarantine to the last quarter of this year. After that there may be loosening of restrictions in a phased return to a pre Covid norm, it may involve travel bubbles, it may involve home quarantine, it may involve quarantine only from certain countries with high infection rates. Whatever will happen will probably happen in gradual phases. DFAT also may want to keep the quarantine structure on standby in case thereís a significant outbreak somewhere in the next two years.

So yeah, Iíd say DFAT having at least a quarantine framework as a backup for up to two years is something theyíd consider. Doesnít necessarily mean it will be two more years of the international border being closed exactly as it is today.
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Old 9th Mar 2021, 08:57
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Originally Posted by Dannyboy39 View Post
It is clearly a very popular policy. Why not keep it going forever? Keeps out all ailments and everyone in Oz can spend their hard earned in Oz. What's not to like?!
I hope youíre being sarcastic...
Sorry if Iím a bit thick at the moment.
Some of us actually had international careers ended by this virus. (Not just flying). Why would you wish that for ever?

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Old 9th Mar 2021, 09:54
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I think the NSW premier is spot on with what she says here. That is how I feel anyway.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6238116721001
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Old 10th Mar 2021, 06:00
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Originally Posted by LapSap View Post
I hope youíre being sarcastic...
Sorry if Iím a bit thick at the moment.
Some of us actually had international careers ended by this virus. (Not just flying). Why would you wish that for ever?
Of course Iím not. Australian money for Australian people only. Tourist attractions, sporting events, jobs and universities should only be for the locals. Of course we can let in rich people, movie, sports and pop stars - they actually contribute unlike the little people.

Itís the year 2035 and WA has just entered its 24th lockdown having kept cases down to just 46 since the pandemic started. The locals are lauding it up, but the Goose is confident that the big 25 foot high wall that is along the domestic border will be able to come down eventually as cases globally completely diminish. Qantas have dumped all of their A380s as the route from Brisbane to Cairns struggled to make any money for them.

I believe this is a very interesting time and an amazing opportunity for Australia to concentrate purely on its own people to provide the business/ tourism etc. I am actually hoping that Australia becomes less reliant on international people and more reliant on its own people. I'm glad there's a drain in certain professions and industries....let's fill it with Aussies. I'm glad there's a shortfall in tourism...let's promote Aussies to fill the void...etc etc. This is a self-sufficient country so let's take advantage of it
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Old 10th Mar 2021, 09:11
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Originally Posted by Dannyboy39 View Post

I believe this is a very interesting time and an amazing opportunity for Australia to concentrate purely on its own people to provide the business/ tourism etc. I am actually hoping that Australia becomes less reliant on international people and more reliant on its own people. I'm glad there's a drain in certain professions and industries....let's fill it with Aussies. I'm glad there's a shortfall in tourism...let's promote Aussies to fill the void...etc etc. This is a self-sufficient country so let's take advantage of it

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For the foreseeable future, that looks the only option...
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Old 10th Mar 2021, 09:49
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"This is a self-sufficient country so let's take advantage of it"

But its not is it (2018 numbers) - cars, computers, oil, aircraft......................

#1 Machinery (AUD$46.2 billion)

Representing about 14% of Australian imports, machinery formed Australia’s largest import in 2018. The level of machinery imports has consistently been high, also representing $47.2 billion worth of Australia’s imports in 2016. This is not surprising given the investment in infrastructure and construction around Australia. Australians import everything ranging from computers and generators to centrifugal pumps, which are essentially ‘capital’ goods that help Australians make other goods.

#2 Oil (AUD$43.9 billion)

Mineral fuels represent around 13.3% of Australian imports, and this rapidly grew by around 33% from 2017 to 2018. Australia imports mainly all its oil and is on the path to becoming 100% reliant on imports for petroleum in 2030. Just over half of Australia’s imported refined petrol is imported from refineries in Singapore, followed by refineries in South Korea and Japan.

#3 Vehicles (AUD$43.6 billion)

Vehicles account for over 13% of Australia’s imports. In 2018, this included the importation of cars, trucks, automobile parts, tractors, trailers and more. Cars alone accounted for $24.3 billion in imports. The importation of specialised vehicles grew significantly. Imports of special purpose vehicles grew by up to 97% from 2017, whilst the imports of armoured vehicles and tanks escalated by over 16%.

#4 Electrical machinery and equipment (AUD$37.1 billion)

Australians love using electrical equipment – so it contributed around 11.3% of Australia’s imports in 2018. By far, the number one electrical piece of equipment forming the bulk of Australian imports were mobile phones, including smartphones. This alone accounted for about AUD$12.3 billion in Australian imports. The import of solar power products also increased significantly by 62% compared to 2017, as did electric generating sets and converters which increased by just over 52%.

#5 Medical/technical equipment (AUD$12 billion)

Optical, technical and medical equipment account for around 3.7% of Australian imports. This includes goods like electro-medical equipment such as x-rays and blood fractions.

#6 Pharmaceuticals (AUD$11.8 billion)

Pharmaceuticals account for about 3.6% of Australian imports. The importation of items such as medicines and medical devices is heavily regulated, and many pharmaceuticals are prohibited from entering into Australian borders by the Department of Health and Australian Border Force.

#7 Gems and precious metals (AUD$9.5 billion)

Representing around 2.9% of Australian imports, gems and precious stones are at #7 on the list. Australians love their jewellery and this plays a critically important role in international trade. Diamonds alone generated about AUD$624 million in value whilst jewellery altogether formed about AUD$1.4 billion in import value.

#8 Plastics and plastic articles ($AUD9.2 billion)

Plastic is a large international business, and it accounted for about 2.8% of Australian imports in 2018.

#9 Iron or steel articles (AUD$7.2 billion)

Coming in at number nine are iron and steel articles, accounting for around 2.2 per cent of Australian imports in 2018. This was a significant increase from the previous year.

#10 Furniture, bedding and lighting (AUD$6.9 billion)

Last but not least, Australians continue to invest in home furnishings, explaining why the importation of furniture, bedding and lighting accounted for 2.1% of all imports.
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Old 11th Mar 2021, 01:53
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#1 Machinery (AUD$46.2 billion)

Representing about 14% of Australian imports, machinery formed Australiaís largest import in 2018..........................
And if your entire fleet of 797's is leased out of Aruba? Is that counted as an import?
And if not, why not and what is it then if not an import?
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Old 11th Mar 2021, 04:00
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https://www.lexology.com/library/det...5-4c91944cdf89

https://www.abf.gov.au/importing-exp...rting-aircraft

The internet is amazing.
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Old 11th Mar 2021, 04:22
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Some lengthy reading in that lot but I'm not sure that it answers my question(s).

I understand about registration and payment of duty.
But I have not yet come across anything that clarifies or categorises subsequent leasing payments.

If you are going to send the value of an aircraft out of country every, say, five years for the life of the aircraft then does that fall into the "value of imports" basket or not?

Maybe I just need to read it all again.
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Old 11th Mar 2021, 05:50
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001 View Post
I think the NSW premier is spot on with what she says here. That is how I feel anyway.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6238116721001
She is very knowledgeable in her thinking & assessment of where we are unlike Queen P who is now telling us how qld is the place to holiday,shows again how out of touch she is.
Her fabulous holiday destinations will remain virtual ghost towns for a very long time due to her continual gloating in the media during the height of the pandemic,many people i have spoken to say they will never spend a $ in qld again & she hasnt got the message yet about the damage she has done.
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Old 11th Mar 2021, 08:11
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Originally Posted by blubak View Post
She is very knowledgeable in her thinking & assessment of where we are unlike Queen P who is now telling us how qld is the place to holiday,shows again how out of touch she is.
Her fabulous holiday destinations will remain virtual ghost towns for a very long time due to her continual gloating in the media during the height of the pandemic,many people i have spoken to say they will never spend a $ in qld again & she hasnt got the message yet about the damage she has done.
apart from the resentment towards her and her utter buffoon deputy, I think the main issue for Qld and WA is the very very real possibility of yet another snap border closure. Same probably for Victoria. And this will endure until the vast majority of people have been vaccinated. At which point hopefully the respective premiers might take a more sensible approach to any new cases. And that won’t be until at least August or September.
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Old 11th Mar 2021, 08:37
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Originally Posted by blubak View Post
She is very knowledgeable in her thinking & assessment of where we are unlike Queen P who is now telling us how qld is the place to holiday,shows again how out of touch she is.
Her fabulous holiday destinations will remain virtual ghost towns for a very long time due to her continual gloating in the media during the height of the pandemic,many people i have spoken to say they will never spend a $ in qld again & she hasnt got the message yet about the damage she has done.
Eventually, I probably will go back to QLD or WA for a holiday, but not for a very long time.
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Old 11th Mar 2021, 10:21
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You aren’t welcome in Queensland, Buster.

Queensland resorts are for Queenslanders.
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Old 12th Mar 2021, 19:47
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You arenít welcome in Queensland, Buster.

Queensland resorts are for Queenslanders.
Might be the only people in qld soon,1 new case in a brissy hospital,full lockdown coming???
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Old 12th Mar 2021, 21:50
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Is now the time to slam the NSW border shut and start making panicky and juvenile statements about how appalling QLD systems are? That seems to be the way QLD has been working the last 12 months!
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Old 12th Mar 2021, 22:00
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W.A.wetting themselves again. Where most of the world considers a 14 day incubation period adequate, these guys have decided on 28. My daughter was in MEL for a few hours between connecting flights two weeks ago. Apparently at about that time one case was traced to MEL airport, so anyone who spent any time there and arriving in PER since is now a suspect and must self isolate, depending on how long they were in transit. If no more cases, they will be let loose some time next week but they have been warned that if any more cases pop up from that source they will probably have to do another 14 days.
Meantime those of us who spent time with her have no restrictions. Where is the science behind this?

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Old 13th Mar 2021, 00:41
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Originally Posted by blubak View Post
Might be the only people in qld soon,1 new case in a brissy hospital,full lockdown coming???
No. Looks like the infected doctor had limited community exposure.

Probably should look at stepping up the rollout to all 1A/1B workers ASAP, as it seems not all healthcare staff at that hospital who had contact with the patient had been in 1A (or had chosen to not take the vaccine). Latest change of plans is that the rollout end date of October is now apparently for the first AZ dose, second dose and full immunity to be done by December. At this stage.
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Old 13th Mar 2021, 03:08
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Mach E Avelli. I fly to Melbourne and back to Perth twice each week. Last year I was in lockdown continuously for 3 months at home thanks to our idiot leader McClown and his WAPOL Nazis. Every 3 days my new WA entry started my 14 days over again. Never got COVID and I likely never will. Never doing self isolation again! Not using WA Safe or Vic Safe or any other Nazi tracking apps. I refuse to comply with any more of this madness. Our Nazi Governments can all get stuffed!
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Old 13th Mar 2021, 04:48
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He is your elected leader, enjoy the next 4yrs of his rash decisions, the worst part is LNP will be wiped out so he will have free rain on anything unchallenged.
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