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Old 27th Jan 2021, 05:13
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NZ do not want a bubble with Australia, Australia close to NZ because of this new strain (rightly so they did it with Brisbane) Jacinta has a sook and try to call Australia out. She should be happy that we wont be bothering her for a while about a bubble.

Next more important issue, why is Australia still closed to it self domestically? even the media have given up on borders not even mentioning it.
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Old 27th Jan 2021, 06:25
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Why cannot every single state border, open tomorrow? I see no reason why they canít. When you stand back, and look at the current play of events, its nothing but madness.

My employer has stood down staff for the next few weeks. Then when looking at the current numbers, and Iím sick of hearing of all my friends about to sell the home, completely not necessarily, does not need to happen.

Domestic Market should have been thriving next month.
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Old 27th Jan 2021, 06:40
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Whether its states, or local government areas or even individual suburbs, generally the policy has been "open when possible, restricted when necessary".

If cases had not escaped international quarantine again and again, we would have been unrestricted months ago.
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Old 27th Jan 2021, 06:59
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Originally Posted by empacher48 View Post
A hotspot defined in the New Zealand/Australia Green Zone travel bubble would be defined as 10 cases in the community per day in urban areas and 3 cases per day in rural areas in either country. This requirement was made by the Australian Federal Government.

NZ hasnít opened a bubble with the whole of Australia because their own requirements is 28 days of no community transmission in Australia. Something that hasnít happened yet.

The Federal Government opened borders to NZ based on the hotspot definition. Then closed the border with one hour notice to NZ for a single case.

NZ is now looking at a travel bubble with states that follow their own elimination strategy. At this stage only Queensland and WA. The NZ, Queensland and WA governments know where they stand. A single case appears anywhere and the borders close.
as SComo said...if you canít go from nsw to qld then you most certainly wonít be going from NZ to QLD. Palachook and McGoose donít control that border.
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Old 27th Jan 2021, 19:31
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post
Why cannot every single state border, open tomorrow? I see no reason why they canít. When you stand back, and look at the current play of events, its nothing but madness.

My employer has stood down staff for the next few weeks. Then when looking at the current numbers, and Iím sick of hearing of all my friends about to sell the home, completely not necessarily, does not need to happen.

Domestic Market should have been thriving next month.
Buy a lotto ticket your wish was granted.

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Old 27th Jan 2021, 20:57
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Palachook says QLD open next week........😀😀😀😀
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Old 27th Jan 2021, 21:28
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Does anyone have a logical explanation for how the person in NZ managed to get through two weeks in quarantine and two negative tests and then come down ill several days after being released from quarantiine.
Looks about as likely as virgin birth to me.
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Old 27th Jan 2021, 23:15
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How about...they interacted in their last two days in quarantine with passengers that were in the early stages of their own stay? Not a lot of virginity required...
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Old 27th Jan 2021, 23:42
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Originally Posted by RubberDogPoop View Post
How about...they interacted in their last two days in quarantine with passengers that were in the early stages of their own stay? Not a lot of virginity required...
Exactly. But I thought that couldn't happen.
I am just a bit surprised that there hasn't been a bit more noise about the circumstances of it happening.
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Old 27th Jan 2021, 23:53
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-...kland/13088496

They are still trying to trace how she became infected, whether from touching something, aircon or some other way. All very interesting.

What I find surprising is someone going on holiday to Europe, including working in Spain whilst there was a pandemic about. Came home, quarantined for 14 days and goes on another holiday within NZ. Obviously it is not stopping her from living her life.

The HQ system is the BIG hole in the swiss cheese at the moment. Hopefully it wont be Australia's or NZ's undoing.............
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 01:08
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080 View Post
In hindsight.
Going back to good old hindsight, right back, if the whole world (The whole planet) did a Victorian style lockdown even tougher i.e.
7.8 billion people stay at home, zero movements in planes/trains/buses/trams/cars/ships, a total shutdown of all industries not for 14 take it to 30 days.
That would make a good movie "The day the earth stood still". Sorry month.

However, the virus would of been suppressed and eliminated as Australia has done in every municipality. If that was done say a year ago, the second half of last
year would be virus free and the world today would be like 2019 covid free. How would this been implemented?
The WHO would of sent an APB to every government/state government. After all its the worlds governments that fund the WHO.
Drastic yes, could LA, NY, London shut down just like Melbourne. Well in hindsight they should have. Extreme short term pain
for long term gain.

Someone really stuffed up in hindsight. Next time a new virus is discovered like this then the WHO must act immediately and I mean immediately, not
ponder and monitor the situation in Wuhan which was about 3 months of procrastination. In hindsight the WHO should of advised
the Wuhan government to place a 30km ring of steal no one goes out, no one comes in. Then the virus would of been
suppressed and eliminated within the 30km radius. I wonder if we will learn from this.
Given that new or mutant viruses emerge continuously, following your proposal, we would have to lock the world down forever! Whilst I agree that a more assertive approach by the WHO may have alleviated much of the pain and suffering we have endured from Covid19, I don't believe that a worldwide lockdown would be either desireable or feasible.
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 02:52
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This day one year ago I had to overnight at a well known east coast destination.

At check in everyone else in the que was wearing a mask.

All had clearly just arrived from China, none had taken the time to book ahead...

It was at that point I realized they might know something that we didn't.
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 04:23
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Low-cost airlines may be Ďbetter positionedí for 2021 challenges

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/avia...-for-2021.html
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 04:26
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Originally Posted by currawong View Post
This day one year ago I had to overnight at a well known east coast destination.

At check in everyone else in the que was wearing a mask.

All had clearly just arrived from China, none had taken the time to book ahead...

It was at that point I realized they might know something that we didn't.
itís amazing the early signs that were missed by many at the size of the problem ahead..
around this time last year I was contemplating taking the kids to Chinatown to watch the CNY celebrations, but had been following some of the news on Twitter and thought better of it.

Funnily enough my in-laws flew in on CSN early/mid January 2020 and my father in law developed Ďthe worst flu heís ever hadí a couple of days after landing with a cough that hung around for about 6 weeks..
was on his ass for 2 weeks so naturally isolated, but no word about testing back then.

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Old 28th Jan 2021, 05:50
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Originally Posted by No Idea Either View Post
Palachook says QLD open next week........😀😀😀😀
Did it in her usual'look how good i am' bitch face attitude.
What about showing some respect & talking to NSW premier first,she really is a piece of work.
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 06:29
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Originally Posted by blubak View Post
Did it in her usual'look how good i am' bitch face attitude.
What about showing some respect & talking to NSW premier first,she really is a piece of work.
not to mention the announcement came at the same time as a request to the fed government for more support for their struggling tourism industry
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 07:20
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She has finally realised tourism industry does not work without tourist. Hopefully Sco Mo cuts all this JK and funding of certain sectors. It just might make these premiers think a little more rationally.
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 13:10
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Did it in her usual'look how good i am' bitch face attitude.
I feel as though I am back in Kindy with her "media events"

Now now boys and girls we have to be goody goodies for a couple more days before you can go outside or before Gran can come from Sydney for a visit.
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 19:43
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
She has finally realised tourism industry does not work without tourist. Hopefully Sco Mo cuts all this JK and funding of certain sectors. It just might make these premiers think a little more rationally.
Its taken her a long long time to work that fact out,i guess she has had too many media events to front up to!
I have read many comments that point this out over the last 9 months or so & now she has finally had to admit it.
Talk about double standards,describes her perfectly.
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 21:59
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One of Anna's staff must have misread the calendar and told her NSW School Holidays start on Monday.
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