All borders to reopen.

[currawong]

Yeah no big deal.

Meanwhile, in California ICU capacity has tanked and mass fatality protocols activated...

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...pacity-at-zero

Other regions reporting at more than 100%

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-capacity.html

[601]

Originally Posted by KRviator View Post
You have 48 hours to produce your licence in Queensland. You should carry it with you, you do not have to. Reference is s.58(3) of the Police Powers Responsibilities Act.
e medicare card or passport is all that's required. Don't have to provide an address. This nonsense has gone on way too long.

That only applies under the Road Use Management Act or the Heavy Vehicle National Law (Queensland);
The Public Health Act 2005 gives the Police wider powers.

[Bodie1]

You think you can outrun nature do you? Good luck with that.

As a mate of mine said, "look at the upside mate, no one has died of old age since March"

[Ladloy]

Originally Posted by Bodie1

You think you can outrun nature do you? Good luck with that.

As a mate of mine said, "look at the upside mate, no one has died of old age since March"

No one ever dies of old age.

[Bodie1]

Watch the morning briefing and see how real professionals deal with this, Chant, Berijiklian

[WhisprSYD]

Originally Posted by Bodie1

Watch the morning briefing and see how real professionals deal with this, Chant, Berijiklian

Yep 👍🏼

and the irony in all the ‘ha the gold standard’ sarcasm that was across social media 2 days ago now that it seems like NSW’s gold standard tracing is going to (fingers crossed) get this under control in under a week

[Ragnor]

They're the best in the world. Also with them doing an exceptional job is the public which is following the direction and rules being put in place in a very dynamic environment so Sydney ppl are just as much to thank.

[Bodie1]

I've had to travel through the 3 eastern states quite a bit during the last 8 months, the difference between the states is marked. Being nannied into Stockholm Syndrome in VIC, the constant jingoism in QLD by quite possibly the dumbest politician in Australia (Miles) and the just get on with it in NSW.

Watching the southern and northern borders this morning is embarrassing. Thinking of a couple of mates and the inevitability of them being stood down again after probably the toughest 9 months of their lives, the destruction of hundreds of millions into the economy and family businesses. Well done Australia, 'We're all in this together'

[1A_Please]

Originally Posted by getaway

luckily guns are strill legal. I'm getting a big one for Xmas. Watch out.

BNEA320 is trying to get his latest pseudonym banned to add it to his collection.

[wheels_down]

Originally Posted by Bodie1

Watch the morning briefing and see how real professionals deal with this, Chant, Berijiklian

Big difference today compared to the previous few days. They stumbled on the first few days, and whilst what is going on behind closed doors leaves other states for dead, the car crash media briefings didn’t put faith in many. Looks like the PR team cleaned a few things up.

She left Sutton and Dan for dead today. Incredibly detailed and they most certainly know what’s going on it appears.

You don’t really need to question contact tracing after seeing today’s performance. Watching months of Victoria briefings you just walk away full of skepticism. Always so many questions left unanswered. Too much unknown and guesswork. No matter how smooth talking Dan and Brett make it.

[Ragnor]

Well our boomers are at it again. 70yr old that’s supposed to stay home being an Avalon resident was fined for breaching the health order. Decided to go to Ulladulla leisure centre for a swim.

[currawong]

"NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian says infections slipping through the cracks of hotel quarantine are "inevitable", after a case linked to the scheme was confirmed today."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-...erges/13007030

[Trampdave]

Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie

I am very happy to be in Oz, where 20 cases make news and 1 death is a headline. Not like Europe or Trumptown with 300,000 dead and tens of thousands more cases every day, hospitals loaded to the max, medical staff run off their feet.

In regional QLD, no lockdowns, no cases, and back in April, no toilet paper. But all good now, only difference is, no tourists.

I m sure a caged monkey in a zoo would be just as happy talking its wild counterpart. 😉

[Potsie Weber]

CDC quarantine guidelines now suggest if no symptoms and have negative test on day 5, a 7 day isolation period is adequate (10 days if no symptoms and no test). At the very least, this should be a reduced requirement for border imposed isolation.

[blubak]

Originally Posted by Ragnor

They're the best in the world. Also with them doing an exceptional job is the public which is following the direction and rules being put in place in a very dynamic environment so Sydney ppl are just as much to thank.

Have never doubted the leaders in NSW, vic stuffed up in a big way but i think to their credit they have really turned that around & in reality all the opposition can do is still play poltics.
No govt will please everyone & even the govt you vote in may not give you what you think they should,all the people following the rules imposed will give the best result & overall thats what is happening.
I have friends in a couple of european countries who would give anything to be living here right now so who is better off?? Easy answer i would have thought.

[WingNut60]

Originally Posted by Trampdave

I m sure a caged monkey in a zoo would be just as happy talking its wild counterpart. 😉

Not sure which part of the EU you live in, but if I want to leave the state in which I live I need to travel 1400 km (distance to the nearest border).
If I want to go to Sydney then that figure doubles plus some.
This state has not had a case of virus in-the-wild or Covid death in over 250 days.
The only restriction of which I know and with which I am required to comply (other than my federal government imposed, monkey's cage travel restrictions) is to leave my telephone number when visiting certain venues.
Unemployment in the state is very slightly above the level it was pre-Covid and as I said in an earlier post, business confidence is reportedly at a 13 year high.

Now tell me again, why am I supposed to feel like a monkey in a cage?

[blubak]

Originally Posted by WingNut60

Not sure which part of the EU you live in, but if I want to leave the state in which I live I need to travel 1400 km (distance to the nearest border).
If I want to go to Sydney then that figure doubles plus some.
This state has not had a case of virus in-the-wild or Covid death in over 250 days.
The only restriction of which I know and with which I am required to comply (other than my federal government imposed, monkey's cage travel restrictions) is to leave my telephone number when visiting certain venues.
Unemployment in the state is very slightly above the level it was pre-Covid and as I said in an earlier post, business confidence is reportedly at a 13 year high.

Now tell me again, why am I supposed to feel like a monkey in a cage?

Correct,ok there are some restrictions right now which are not perfect by any means but like i said previously look at europe.
I feel lucky to be in oz right now,it is not perfect but putting it in perspective where would you rather be?

[WingNut60]

Originally Posted by blubak

Correct,ok there are some restrictions right now which are not perfect by any means but like i said previously look at europe.
I feel lucky to be in oz right now,it is not perfect but putting it in perspective where would you rather be?

Anywhere in Oz except,perhaps, within about a 200 km radius of Westfield Chatswood.
And that has nothing to do with Covid.

[KRviator]

Originally Posted by WingNut60

This state has not had a case of virus in-the-wild or Covid death in over 250 days.

Please tell the rest of us why that might be? Surely it wouldn't be because your esteemed leader refused to pull his weight with international arrivals during the initial stages of the pandemic - preferring to let other states carry the load, while at the same time, crowing about how good his measures have been? And surely that wouldn't be because he hasn't prepared said state for its' own COVID outbreak, instead preferring to whinge about how only "2,000 tests is four times the normal number and that's why people were turned away from getting tested" while NSW can successfully test over 44,000 people in one day!

Any turkey can close the borders and say "Look how good we have done!", that's not the real measure of success - particularly when you are not your own nation, but part of a federation of states. Though I guess I shouldn't be surprised - WA didn't even sign up to Federation when everyone else did, that came weeks later when they finally decided they should be part of Australia....

While I am rightly critical of the NSW Government on many levels, I would say they have been the most successful - and the most reasonable - in the entire thing. They have brought back more Australian's through Sydney since March than all the other states combined! They have done so, notwithstanding they have had several outbreaks and have only closed one border once and even then it took a serious outbreak to trigger that, and they have proven many times they can get on top of any outbreaks fairly rapidly. And even now when when dealing with their most significant outbreak in months, at a time when other states are shutting NSWelshmen out, they continue to bring significantly more Australian through Sydney than other states.

Nope, I wouldn't be proud to say I'm from Qld or WA when talking about a COVID response....

[Derfred]

Originally Posted by Potsie Weber

CDC quarantine guidelines now suggest if no symptoms and have negative test on day 5, a 7 day isolation period is adequate (10 days if no symptoms and no test). At the very least, this should be a reduced requirement for border imposed isolation.

Ahh, but that's based on accepting a 90% containment of COVID, which they now deem acceptable, given the circumstances in the US.

If you want 100% containment, you still need 14 days, sorry. The incubation period of COVID hasn't changed.