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Old 6th Aug 2020, 13:54
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Bugger being type rated - in 12 months time I’ll apply when I have 200 hrs Cessna P210R big bore LOP time.
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Old 7th Aug 2020, 03:33
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so with up to 14 E190s Alliance will surely be operating many more of ex VA routes inc. into CBR. Almost all QF BNE/CBR flights were B717s before Corona IIRC.

Surely with Alliance's lower costs, they can make thin routes work. Could E190s be used to Solomons ? Some of VA load factors to HIR were awful.

Could E190s be used to thinner NZ routes like BNE/DUD & NTL/AKL ?
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Old 7th Aug 2020, 04:40
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sowith up to 14 E190s Alliance will surely be operating many more of ex VA routes inc. into CBR. Almost all QF BNE/CBR flights were B717s before Corona IIRC.

Surely with Alliance's lower costs, they can make thin routes work. Could E190s be used to Solomons ? Some of VA load factors to HIR were awful.

Could E190s be used to thinner NZ routes like BNE/DUD & NTL/AKL ?
Iíve heard from a very reliable source that they will be looking at restarting the highly lucrative Bankstown-Tijuana service.
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Old 7th Aug 2020, 05:03
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Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere View Post
Iíve heard from a very reliable source that they will be looking at restarting the highly lucrative Bankstown-Tijuana service.
Don't forget the (high demand) route ... Karratha to Singapore!
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Old 7th Aug 2020, 05:23
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Originally Posted by BNEA320 (TT738) View Post
so with up to 14 E190s Alliance will surely be operating many more of ex VA routes inc. into CBR. Almost all QF BNE/CBR flights were B717s before Corona IIRC.

Surely with Alliance's lower costs, they can make thin routes work. Could E190s be used to Solomons ? Some of VA load factors to HIR were awful.

Could E190s be used to thinner NZ routes like BNE/DUD & NTL/AKL ?
I heard Alliance are looking to start Brisbane to Mumbai via Karratha, Singapore and Bangkok with the E190s.

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Old 7th Aug 2020, 07:39
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VA might just be OK...

so any of you outa work VA blokes endorsed on the BrazJet will definitely get a gig (DECs etc) and ALLIANCE wil be fully crewed and ready to go...moral , no aviation executive gives a flying fuÄ£ about MORAL !!! Sorry about the blokes thatíll have to stay on the F28-100 , but thatís how itís gonna work in this shite fight they call an aviation career nowadays
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Old 7th Aug 2020, 09:22
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Should Alliance direct entry type rated pilots onto the Embraer in lieu of current crew itíll destroy morale. Worthy of consideration. No doubt the Ďboysí will get a gig. The regular line drivers will resent it terribly. Trust Alliance have some semblance of thought on this.​​​​​​
Welcome to aviation Australia in 2020, I'm afraid the good old days ended around 31 years ago
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Old 7th Aug 2020, 09:33
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Depends who gets the job running the fleet and who they know. A fleet of 14 is certainly sizable and will probably have someone who has Virgin Embraer on their CV.

There would be quite a few abroad now returning home that are experienced in launching and overseeing numerous widebody fleets, but you would be hard pressed to find many locals here that have experience with both the regulator and Brazjet.
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Old 7th Aug 2020, 09:47
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Pionair are about to be pilotless. What a chance to grab a whole batch of current E2 Pilots. The entire training department is already there waiting. Pionair Management Pilots some are ex Virgin and most recently Emirates. So EK Pilots will no doubt be first in line if who I think gets involved considering all his mates on the super are back home jobless.

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Old 7th Aug 2020, 12:55
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I think only a smaller % of the recently redundant Virgin pilots have been on the Ejet (20% maybe?)
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Old 9th Aug 2020, 01:46
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looking to expand big time. Was there any mention of F70/F100 retirements ?
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Old 9th Aug 2020, 03:25
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So Alliance's Ejet fleet size will be roughly the same as Virgin's when Virgin were operating the Ejet. Would Alliance have the same number of flight crew per aircraft that Virgin had? What sort of numbers are we looking at here? 4 sets of flight crew per aircraft?
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Old 9th Aug 2020, 08:57
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A very small number may have broken their word, however no bonds were signed. Some individuals went to the Far East and apparently didn't make the grade only to return to Oz. However most had been with the company more than 6 years, as 152 pointed out they left due to the down turn in the mining industry and were concerned about their jobs.

As far as crews are concerned the company normally has a morning and evening flight to the mines. So considering annual leave and standby's, 5 crews for every 2 aircraft would probably do it. Initially there would be a small number of typed guys to get the the ball rolling but as the number of E190s increases, Alliance pilots will be moved on to the 190 leaving F50 and F100 slots. These will obviously be filled with rated guys that they know. I have heard of one F50 "checkie" who can start quite quickly.

Best of luck to all.
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Old 9th Aug 2020, 11:15
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Yep ,monkey , that number of four is about the minimum ratio to keep the jets in revenue Ďblackí. With a fleet manager and some C&T(not all captains,they will want the cheaper option of C&T F/O) Iíd hazard a guess at about 60 sets of crew.
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Old 9th Aug 2020, 12:53
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Honest Q: Alliance have a rep for being "gentle" with their aircraft utilisation on the Fokkers.

Would you expect the same for the JJ's or leaning more towards much higher utilisation that the more modern aircraft should be able to cop?

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Old 10th Aug 2020, 16:42
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Originally Posted by onedottoolow View Post
Those pilots that ventured overseas for greener pastures shouldn’t be considered at all ! As they’ll be gone ASAP once international ramps up again.

The Australian way would be, look after those pilots being made redundant at Virgin, Tiger, and possibly Qantas and Jetstar.
These pilots and their families contribute significantly to the Australian enconomy and deserve first preference......
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Get the chip of you shoulder or at the very least get another one on the other shoulder to give your self some semblance on balance.
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Old 12th Aug 2020, 05:24
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I heard some of the ex Alliance guys have already returned to Adelaide and Perth and have acquired E190 systems manuals.
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Old 12th Aug 2020, 06:13
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Originally Posted by novicef View Post
I heard some of the ex Alliance guys have already returned to Adelaide and Perth and have acquired E190 systems manuals.
Finally some good news! Awesome. They would be feeling somewhat relieved and happy given the current environment.
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 02:15
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Are there any other Virgin pilots who are retiring and willing to sell their E190 systems manuals and CBT?
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Old 25th Aug 2020, 12:42
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Well done Alliance once again. An all time high on the ASX today. If I had put a dollar or two in to Alliance 3 months ago instead of posting dribble here ​​I'd be sitting on a nice 35% return. If I was cleverer than that and had a dabble in mid March - a whopping 300% return. Not that I did either. Bugger!!!
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