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Old 31st May 2021, 03:03
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I agree Kiwi, I can see this one going to the courts as well..
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Old 31st May 2021, 03:34
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Originally Posted by No Idea Either View Post
I agree Kiwi, I can see this one going to the courts as well..
The anti-vaxxers (sorry, “pro-vaccine choice”) are going to fail.

You need a Flu vaccine to work in aged care.

You need a Covid vaccine to work in hotel quarantine.

Attempts by anti-vaxxers to work in those jobs unvaccinated have failed in the courts:

An aged care worker who was sacked for refusing a flu shot has failed to get her job back after the national industrial tribunal ruled her employer had correctly followed government health directions.

Airlines won’t be any different.
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Old 31st May 2021, 03:36
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Bravo Aviation will make it a condition of employment.

Those who aren’t vaccinated won’t get employed. Simple interview question will sort it out.

No court battle or fight with the union.

How goods Alliance 😅😂🤣
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Old 31st May 2021, 21:28
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Bravo, I applauded this. Can’t wait for AJ to make it a condition of employment you know like having all those other shots like hep, pox etc before you start.
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Old 1st Jun 2021, 00:28
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I don't see what the problem is. Children need to have all their immunizations up to date and checked against a national register before they can attend kindy. The government also has a 'No Jab. No Pay' policy. If your child's immunization status is not up to date, they can deny family assistance payments.
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Old 1st Jun 2021, 02:25
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Originally Posted by smiling monkey View Post
I don't see what the problem is. Children need to have all their immunizations up to date and checked against a national register before they can attend kindy. The government also has a 'No Jab. No Pay' policy. If your child's immunization status is not up to date, they can deny family assistance payments.
Flu shots to work in aged, even to enter an aged care facility to visit parents you need a to have flu shot

Various shots to work council jobs related to sewage

It all exists, not particularly common but betting it will become more and more common
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Old 1st Jun 2021, 02:31
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So what's Alliance's insurance coverage for the 1/1 000 000 medical reaction that ends someones career? Or do they think the odds are in their favour?
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Old 1st Jun 2021, 03:46
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Just as you don't have to take the vaccine , nor do you have to work at Alliance. It's a choice.
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Old 1st Jun 2021, 03:52
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Originally Posted by neville_nobody View Post
So what's Alliance's insurance coverage for the 1/1 000 000 medical reaction that ends someones career? Or do they think the odds are in their favour?
How many of those has there been?

You'd have a higher chance of falling down the steps on a wet day during a turnaround and killing your self than suffering a career ending reaction from a vaccine.
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Old 1st Jun 2021, 05:28
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Just as you don't have to take the vaccine , nor do you have to work at Alliance. It's a choice
Except for those already employed who are being forced to have it.

How many of those has there been?
You'd have a higher chance of falling down the steps on a wet day during a turnaround and killing your self than suffering a career ending reaction from a vaccine.
The thing is we don't know. This got waived through alot of normal testing due to the world crisis. I would guess this why it has been optional so far. If you voluntarily get it then you are the one taking the risk.
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Old 1st Jun 2021, 12:17
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Originally Posted by rattman View Post
Flu shots to work in aged, even to enter an aged care facility to visit parents you need a to have flu shot

Various shots to work council jobs related to sewage

It all exists, not particularly common but betting it will become more and more common
While it is true that aged care workers require a flu shot, and many workers exposed to treated sewage require a number of vaccinations, these are mandated by a government authority, normally on the advice of independent medical specialists.

Unless Alliance have formed government, and consulted independent medical specialists, then what they are attempting is novel.

Whilst I am all for pilots getting vaccinated, I'd caution against supporting the power to mandate vaccinations being moved from a democratically elected government to a company.

Bottom line is if Alliance want to mandate Covid vaccinations for crew, then they are free to lobby the government to do so.
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Old 1st Jun 2021, 13:03
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I find it amusing that a bunch of people ark up at being required to be vaccinated for work, yet in general Australians have basically been shown to be sheeple and do exactly what the government tells us, compared to other nations around the world. This is the future, if you don’t vaccinate you will be left behind, it’s not a conspiracy, it’s Science.
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Old 3rd Jun 2021, 07:19
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Alliance would have difficulty proving that a vaccine was required due to the inherent nature of the job, particularly for non-customer facing roles such as pilots.

Qantas would have more luck mandating a vaccine for aircrew if it was required for international travel due to the various government border requirements. That would be a different argument.

Whilst I am pro-vax, I am anti- anything that chips away at fundamental human rights, such as the right to refuse a medical procedure. There is a principle at stake. I wonder if this will see the inside of a courtroom?
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Old 7th Jun 2021, 00:06
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Alliance (I think this is the right thread) must be doing well to be able to announce new sponsorships. Just taken up Tigers mantle for the Storm.
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Old 17th Jun 2021, 18:41
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Media Releases
Qantas and Jetstar meet strong domestic demand with more aircraft, flights
Sydney
Published on 17th June 2021
  • Qantas expands deal with Alliance Airlines for additional capacity using Embraer E190 jets
  • More services for Adelaide-Canberra route announced today; others to follow
  • Jetstar Airways redeploys more aircraft from Singapore
The Qantas Group is preparing for continued growth in domestic travel demand, with additional aircraft to be made available for Qantas and Jetstar flying.

Additional E190s for QantasLink

The national carrier today announced an expansion of its three-year deal with Alliance Airlines, which provides QantasLink with capacity using Alliance’s Embraer E190 regional jet aircraft and the flexibility to respond to changing market conditions.

The expanded agreement will see the airline increase its options under this deal from 14 jet aircraft to a total of 18. Of this, three are already flying with another five to enter service by October. The E190s will be painted in QantasLink livery and are part of Qantas growing its domestic capacity to at least 107 per cent of pre-COVID levels in FY22.

The first of the 94-seat E190 jets started flying on the QantasLink network last month. The jet’s five-hour range makes it well suited to linking regional centres with smaller capital cities. The introduction of E190s also frees up Qantas’ Boeing 737 aircraft to be redeployed across the domestic network, enabling the airline to launch a number of new routes and add frequencies on existing ones.

Canberra-Adelaide is the latest route to benefit from additional flights made possible by the E190, with frequencies to double from nine per week to 18 per week from mid-July.

Jetstar boosts its Australian-based A320 fleet

Demand for low-cost leisure travel remains strong due to closed international borders and structural changes in Australia’s aviation market. As a result, Jetstar’s Australian domestic network is set to grow to 120 per cent of its pre-COVID schedule in FY22.

To help meet the increased demand, three Airbus A320 aircraft will be temporarily redeployed from Jetstar Asia in Singapore while international travel in the region faces a slower recovery.

These aircraft join the six Airbus A320 aircraft on loan to Jetstar Airways from Jetstar Japan and up to five Boeing 787-8 aircraft set to operate domestically until international travel resumes (previously announced).

CEO COMMENTS

Qantas Group CEO Alan Joyce said:

“Since travel demand started to recover about a year ago, our strategy has been to think creatively about how we use our fleet to add capacity back in, generate revenue and get more of our people back to work. That’s why we now have 787s flying domestically and A320s on loan from Jetstar airlines in Asia.

“Expanding our long-standing relationship with Alliance gives us access to a different aircraft type without spending any capital. The E190 is perfect for connecting capital cities and regional centres. Its size, range and economics have already let us start seven new routes that wouldn’t have worked with our existing fleet.

“When you combine our fleet, network, loyalty program, lounges, and the fact we offer both full service and low fare travel options, it puts the Group in a good position to deliver for the traveling public as we emerge from COVID.

“Victoria represents about 20 per cent of our total network and with restrictions in Melbourne easing and as borders start to reopen, we expect to see a quick rebound in travel demand just as we have in other cities when lockdowns ended. Our forward bookings certainly suggest that’s going to be the case.”
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Old 18th Jun 2021, 03:04
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So that accounts for 18 of the 30 airframes. I get the feeling that 18 is not the final figure.
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Old 18th Jun 2021, 03:24
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Don't be surprised to see the entire 30 frames eventually flying for QF. QF keep hammering on about the E190's range so that gives you an idea of what they have planned for the fleet.

The 717's look to be consolidating to the Southern states with very little QLD flying these days.
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Old 18th Jun 2021, 03:32
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I heard someone say “Scab” on the radio the other day directed to one of these descending into Alice. Are these E190s being operated by crew being paid under the award still or has that been resolved?
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Old 18th Jun 2021, 04:06
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I heard someone say “Scab” on the radio the other day directed to one of these descending into Alice.
Jesus Christ, are some pilots really that pathetic? After everything that has gone on over the last 15 months??
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Old 18th Jun 2021, 04:45
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So Adelaide, darwin and Canberra are now regional's?
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