Qantas mainline brings 717’s in house

[Bignose101]

Could you please repeat that in 'english'

[altocu]

Originally Posted by bangbounceboeing

Great news for the 717 drivers. Hopefully their seniority carries through onto the mainline seniority list.

Hilarious.

[Ragnor]

Meet your new project sunrise crew when it gets going.

[Bug Smasher Smasher]

Originally Posted by Section28- BE

They outweigh an F-Truck and there is 'only' 20x of them in 'this' Gig/Deal............., could 'one' get another gross/or more of 'em....????

Does, 'anybody' still support the Propulsion & Avionics packages......??? and how does, the pressure-vessel/hull system work?????

Just askin , got me stuffed- have a really great day.
Rgds all
S28- BE

Doesn’t matter. They’ll all be flying 320s soon.

[Capt Fathom]

Maybe they’ll call it Impulse Airlines!

[normanton]

Originally Posted by bangbounceboeing

Great news for the 717 drivers. Hopefully their seniority carries through onto the mainline seniority list.

HAHA!

The end of QF seniority list is not where you want to be right now.

[neville_nobody]

They outweigh an F-Truck and there is 'only' 20x of them in 'this' Gig/Deal............., could 'one' get another gross/or more of 'em....????

Well there's a few being parked by Delta if they want some more. Maybe QF are replacing some 737 flying post covid??

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhorton1/2020/05/17/delta-will-cut-717-operating-fleet-by-50-67-due-to-covid-19/#4c48d5c452d2

Any idea what the big picture is here?? How many AOCs does one airline actually need? Good news for empire building management I guess they get to duplicate everything again!

[aussieflyboy]

As was mentioned in another thread, the 717s are the Fokker replacement.

Network will be the 320 operator and NJS will be 717 operator. Expect a bunch more 717s over the next few years.

[Transition Layer]

QF Management following the old expression...never waste a crisis!

As if there wasn’t enough downwards pressure on terms and conditions

[RickNRoll]

Originally Posted by aussieflyboy

As was mentioned in another thread, the 717s are the Fokker replacement.

Network will be the 320 operator and NJS will be 717 operator. Expect a bunch more 717s over the next few years.

Perfect. Replace a very old plane with an old plane.

[aussieflyboy]

Originally Posted by RickNRoll

Perfect. Replace a very old plane with an old plane.

The 717s are early 2000s, same as a bunch of QFs 737s...

[ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE]

Originally Posted by aussieflyboy

The 717s are early 2000s, same as a bunch of QFs 737s...

I think he meant the 717s replacing F100s

The Network F100s are early ‘90s builds.

[aussieflyboy]

Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE

I think he meant the 717s replacing F100s

The Network F100s are early ‘90s builds.

QF was hardly going to replace them with C Series. The 717 as a replacement makes sense.

Originally Posted by Section28- BE

Does, 'anybody' still support the Propulsion & Avionics packages......??

Engines supported and still being made by Rolls (Global Express and G5) and Avionics by Honeywell (VIA2000 is in C5 Galaxy and 777)

[601]

they bought the AOC

You cannot buy an AOC.
You have to buy the entity that has been granted the AOC.
If the entity is a natural person, the AOC cannot go anywhere as you cannot buy a person.

[Blitzkrieger]

I think some of my friends on the 717 will sleep a little easier tonight knowing they are bound for new management and a vastly different culture. The 717 has plenty of life in it yet and so do the crews who fly them now.

[industry insider]

Aussieflyboy

As was mentioned in another thread, the 717s are the Fokker replacement.

Ironic really since the Fokkers replaced the 717s in WA a few years ago.

[B772]

The timing of this move could be fortuitous for QF and disastrous for VA. QF could use the the low cost B717 to compete with VA on the East Coast routes charging fares VA could not match. The ACCC would be powerless to prevent this.

[Asturias56]

It's good news for the drivers but it really is a pretty grim aircraft - the design is well over 50 years old and so there's only a couple of Operators left - I don't think they have much passenger appeal TBH

[Capt Claret]

Originally Posted by Asturias56

It's good news for the drivers but it really is a pretty grim aircraft - the design is well over 50 years old and so there's only a couple of Operators left - I don't think they have much passenger appeal TBH

The DC9 and 737 both started their life in 1963, so if the 717 is a grim aircraft based on its original design age, so too is the 737.

I think you might be surprised at the passenger appeal.

[LostWanderer]

Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE

I think he meant the 717s replacing F100s

The Network F100s are early ‘90s builds.

So what happens to the F100 drivers/717 drivers in this scenario? I can’t imagine them doubling up on crews if it’s a replacement, especially how things are going to be into the future with demand.

Have they actually confirmed no redundancies for anyone?