Rex Expanding Into Jets
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Australia
Posts: 861
What demand is there going to be in Aus?
There might be demand from the locals both sides of the pond but there won’t be any other tourists to fill the seats from overseas that there used to be. I guess then if they do venture in all the airlines can easily do social distancing. The Trans Tasman will be good for that as everyone weighs in.
There might be demand from the locals both sides of the pond but there won’t be any other tourists to fill the seats from overseas that there used to be. I guess then if they do venture in all the airlines can easily do social distancing. The Trans Tasman will be good for that as everyone weighs in.
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Denmark
Posts: 457
Originally Posted by chookcooker
says the person who has stated he’s happy for qantas to get government assistance even though virgin didn’t
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 97
Gday Oz. Using leave is a choice. I’m not using any leave, and getting job keeper, so for me at least QF isn’t using Jobkeeper to pay for it. If someone in virgin is using leave, do virgin pay Jobkeeper on top? If so, that’s a pretty good deal.
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: NT
Posts: 145
Originally Posted by Chad Gates
Gday Oz. Using leave is a choice. I’m not using any leave, and getting job keeper, so for me at least QF isn’t using Jobkeeper to pay for it. If someone in virgin is using leave, do virgin pay Jobkeeper on top? If so, that’s a pretty good deal.
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: New Zealand
Age: 68
Posts: 55
Originally Posted by Pundit
September would be tight even with CASA assistance to get the jets on the AOC.
scanner!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: QLD - where drivers are yet to realise that the left lane goes to their destination too.
Posts: 2,364
Originally Posted by Paragraph377
You don’t really seem to know very much do you? You say “I think” and “I’m pretty sure”. That hardly provides any merit of confidence in your actual understanding or your comments on the matter. Maybe you “think” and are “pretty sure” that the tooth fairy is real also?
And you said this regarding REX;
“It doesn't go anywhere people actually live, or interstate”.
Really? Aren’t they based in NSW? Don’t they fly also in QLD, SA, WA and VIC. And to places such as Cairns, Townsville and Brisbane? I would hardly call that ‘not flying interstate’ or ‘not going to where people actually live’!
Bud, I don’t think you are well. Please have a good rest, take in some imagine take some lithium pills.
And you said this regarding REX;
“It doesn't go anywhere people actually live, or interstate”.
Really? Aren’t they based in NSW? Don’t they fly also in QLD, SA, WA and VIC. And to places such as Cairns, Townsville and Brisbane? I would hardly call that ‘not flying interstate’ or ‘not going to where people actually live’!
Bud, I don’t think you are well. Please have a good rest, take in some imagine take some lithium pills.
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: there
Posts: 730
With Virgin you have a choice for jobkeeper. You can burn Annual/Long Service leave at up to 50% per roster (ie up to14 days in 28) and the company credits you $1500 (jobkeeper) worth of leave. So for example as a Captain to be paid 14 days of Annual / Long Service leave in a roster only about 11.7 days of leave (ie 14 - whatever $1500 works out to be worth in days paid) is debited against your leave total OR burn no leave and just take the straight $1500 jobkeeper (minus tax of course).
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: New Zealand
Age: 68
Posts: 55
Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was
My comments re their routes were about their BNE base. Their QLD ops are protected and subsidised by the QLD government. They can fly around practically empty if necessary. They don't have to compete in QLD. They don't run between the major population centres. They are not stupid enough to take on QF, QLink et al.
Last edited by Paragraph377; 13th May 2020 at 22:02.
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: All at sea
Posts: 1,814
Originally Posted by slice
With Virgin you have a choice for jobkeeper. You can burn Annual/Long Service leave at up to 50% per roster (ie up to14 days in 28) and the company credits you $1500 (jobkeeper) worth of leave. So for example as a Captain to be paid 14 days of Annual / Long Service leave in a roster only about 11.7 days of leave (ie 14 - whatever $1500 works out to be worth in days paid) is debited against your leave total OR burn no leave and just take the straight $1500 jobkeeper (minus tax of course).
Can you, chookcooker and ozbiggles PLEASE either stay on thread or p!ss off to one of the other 8 or so threads applicable to VA & QF and keep this clear for those wishing to engage in rational (or even irrational) discussion about R. E. X.
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Location: All at sea
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Originally Posted by Paragraph377
CASA don’t “assist” the operator. CASA are the Regulator and their role is to ensure that an Operator meets the regulations and standards as set out in the Civil Aviation Act. They audit, inspect and give the final approvals. The Operator does all the work, CASA just tick that all the boxes have been filled out correctly.
Having been involved in a start-up high capacity jet AOC where we were careful to cross reference everything against the regulations, it still took a team of us 8 months to get the paperwork passed. Fortunately, we got through with just one proving flight. Then CASA wised up and made other even better resourced applicants who followed do several proving flights.
REX is starting with some advantage in that they have an AOC, so this would be a variation application, but even so it is quite likely that CASA will drag out any approval to next year. A September 2020 start date would be highly fanciful, Christmas 2020 would be barely feasible if the application was made next month with manual suite attached, postholders nominated and aircraft identified by serial number.
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: New Zealand
Age: 68
Posts: 55
Originally Posted by Mach E Avelli
Indeed CASA provides no assistance in the AOC application process; more like they drag it out by having a caste of thousands peruse every statement in every document submitted. This perusal goes well beyond mere ticking of boxes, with individuals within CASA rejecting words, paragraphs and chapters in order that their own 'pet' versions be incorporated.
Having been involved in a start-up high capacity jet AOC where we were careful to cross reference everything against the regulations, it still took a team of us 8 months to get the paperwork passed. Fortunately, we got through with just one proving flight. Then CASA wised up and made other even better resourced applicants who followed do several proving flights.
REX is starting with some advantage in that they have an AOC, so this would be a variation application, but even so it is quite likely that CASA will drag out any approval to next year. A September 2020 start date would be highly fanciful, Christmas 2020 would be barely feasible if the application was made next month with manual suite attached, postholders nominated and aircraft identified by serial number.
Having been involved in a start-up high capacity jet AOC where we were careful to cross reference everything against the regulations, it still took a team of us 8 months to get the paperwork passed. Fortunately, we got through with just one proving flight. Then CASA wised up and made other even better resourced applicants who followed do several proving flights.
REX is starting with some advantage in that they have an AOC, so this would be a variation application, but even so it is quite likely that CASA will drag out any approval to next year. A September 2020 start date would be highly fanciful, Christmas 2020 would be barely feasible if the application was made next month with manual suite attached, postholders nominated and aircraft identified by serial number.
Regardless, REX will get a couple of free goals due to who is managing the ‘sharp end’ of their company. Would just be nice to see pilots flying and aircraft burning Avgas and Jet A1 again.
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Sydney
Posts: 109
Originally Posted by neville_nobody
Will their FMS pass muster under the current arrangements? They made alot of noise about moving off CAO 48 at the time with protests, alot of political noise and pressure on the regulator.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sydney Australia
Posts: 2,177
Originally Posted by Lookleft
CASA have quietly moved the implementation of CAO48.1 to April next year because of corona so for the moment Rex don't have to worry about FRMS.
Last edited by KRUSTY 34; 14th May 2020 at 05:54.
