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Jayne Hrdlicka isn't letting the grass grow under her feet while she waits for Bain to officially take over Virgin Australia and appoint her as either Chairwoman or a Board director, Hawaiian revealed today that she has been appointed to the board of Hawaiian Airlines. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12351852
Jayne Hrdlicka isn't letting the grass grow under her feet while she waits for Bain to officially take over Virgin Australia and appoint her as either Chairwoman or a Board director, Hawaiian revealed today that she has been appointed to the board of Hawaiian Airlines. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12351852
When she was head of Jetstar she was still a Board Member of Woolworths for the duration. I don't know how you can do both considering the size of both companies, plus she had other board roles as well as those two.
Common trait among many execs. Board roles are great retirement funds.
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When she was head of Jetstar she was still a Board Member of Woolworths for the duration. I don't know how you can do both considering the size of both companies, plus she had other board roles as well as those two.
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Now that QLD has closed to Sydney for an undetermined time. How does that affect Bains forecast modeling on expenses on this purchase. Do they cut and run or proceed knowing that their own pocket will be responsible for X amount of cash!
Bain have deep pockets but they also are involved in a lot of other ventures where is the line drawn.
Bain have deep pockets but they also are involved in a lot of other ventures where is the line drawn.
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Now that QLD has closed to Sydney for an undetermined time. How does that affect Bains forecast modeling on expenses on this purchase. Do they cut and run or proceed knowing that their own pocket will be responsible for X amount of cash!
Bain have deep pockets but they also are involved in a lot of other ventures where is the line drawn.
Bain have deep pockets but they also are involved in a lot of other ventures where is the line drawn.
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Now that QLD has closed to Sydney for an undetermined time. How does that affect Bains forecast modeling on expenses on this purchase. Do they cut and run or proceed knowing that their own pocket will be responsible for X amount of cash!
Bain have deep pockets but they also are involved in a lot of other ventures where is the line drawn.
Bain have deep pockets but they also are involved in a lot of other ventures where is the line drawn.
If they were running those flights at a profit, it wouldn't have been much I wouldn't have thought. And if they weren't making anything on them, then shutting the services down works in their favour.
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Do you think that Virgin were making anything on their Sydney to Queensland services over the past few weeks? It would be interesting to know what the load factors were like and which flights were being covered under the Minimum Domestic Network support program and which ones Virgin were flying off their own bat.
If they were running those flights at a profit, it wouldn't have been much I wouldn't have thought. And if they weren't making anything on them, then shutting the services down works in their favour.
If they were running those flights at a profit, it wouldn't have been much I wouldn't have thought. And if they weren't making anything on them, then shutting the services down works in their favour.
Be interesting how Bain react to the closure of QLD is all my point was. how much are they prepared to loose given the state of Australia and world economy.
Any of the usual reasons (in this case load factors - I have no idea what these have been running at in aggregate - and revenue management - the discounted fares offered as part of the Come Back ticket sales promotions wouldn't have helped) plus the added issue of dealing with travel credit redemptions.
The Australian had an article a few days ago saying the expectation was that Bain would continue with the purchase but that their size would be significantly less than the 40 737’s touted.
ive also heard speculation that Clive will win his case, and the borders will be reopened. This was from multiple independent sources, all in the legal world. I can’t comment on the accuracy.
FFS, either manage the cases as they arise or go for eradication. Stop f@&king us around you dumbass premiers. A national approach is needed. This is all just political bull****. (The borders, not the virus!)
ive also heard speculation that Clive will win his case, and the borders will be reopened. This was from multiple independent sources, all in the legal world. I can’t comment on the accuracy.
FFS, either manage the cases as they arise or go for eradication. Stop f@&king us around you dumbass premiers. A national approach is needed. This is all just political bull****. (The borders, not the virus!)
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I couldn’t agree more. Just lock it down again enforce the law be stricter than April/May and be done with it. The current way will lead a slow death to all industry not just aviation.
Well I hope Clive wins, that will set the precedent for the other states won’t it?
Well I hope Clive wins, that will set the precedent for the other states won’t it?
There are two issues for the Federal Court to consider in Clive's (and the Commonwealth's) action against the WA government;
- Can the states exercise border control in the pursuit of managing public health ostensibly contrary to the intent of s 92?
- If yes, is the states' right to do so absolute or must it be subject to some form of reasonableness test?
It's widely accepted that the states can exercise border control in the pursuit of managing public health and other matters such as agricultural protection and quarantine so the matter will likely turn on the issue of reasonableness, that is, should Western Australia be allowed to impose a total border closure when that includes restricting travel from Tasmania and South Australia, states with very low new case counts. That's a bit of a slippery slope issue for a court and might likely come down to dualing public health experts. One way or another the matter will end up in the High Court so don't expect it to be resolved conclusively by the Federal Court next week.
The reason that any decision is unlikely to impact other states, say Queensland, is that if the ruling is based on reasonableness Queensland can probably demonstrate that they have been reasonable in their approach; they re-opened and then only re-imposed restrictions selectively based on point of origin new case data.
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It was annoying to watch people with no actual knowledge of responsibility, putting the blame at ScoMo's feet for the Bushfires. It's also not a Federal matter in a pandemic, but Aged Care is of course. If this was to become the catalyst for change in these matters, then I'd have no issue at all. It's just a matter of getting all those 'dumbass' Premiers to agree to the relinquishment of their States power. At the end of the day, when push comes to shove, the States have acted like independent Nations so our Island status has been muted somewhat.
When QEII departs & there's a solid push for a Republic...again...then perhaps that'll be the time to make a few other changes. Bottom line, get your kids into Law because this is gonna be a cash cow for decades!
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"When QEII departs & there's a solid push for a Republic...again...then perhaps that'll be the time to make a few other changes. Bottom line, get your kids into Law because this is gonna be a cash cow for decades!"
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I can't agree more regards the Republic debate, but I don't agree with your defence of SmugMug in regards the bushfires. he ignored experts and we lost countless precious tracts of National Forests.Having said that I don't envy his job at the moment, I liken it to herding cats.
One thing is for sure when this pandemic is all over there will be a lot to look at, but we digress this is meant to be a thread on Virgin.
Unless the borders can be opened up soon without serious help from the government Virgin and indeed Qantas are in deep doo doo.
Wouldn't a vaccine be nice, and people acting responsibly too...........
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I can't agree more regards the Republic debate, but I don't agree with your defence of SmugMug in regards the bushfires. he ignored experts and we lost countless precious tracts of National Forests.Having said that I don't envy his job at the moment, I liken it to herding cats.
One thing is for sure when this pandemic is all over there will be a lot to look at, but we digress this is meant to be a thread on Virgin.
Unless the borders can be opened up soon without serious help from the government Virgin and indeed Qantas are in deep doo doo.
Wouldn't a vaccine be nice, and people acting responsibly too...........
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It depends on the ruling but probably not.
There are two issues for the Federal Court to consider in Clive's (and the Commonwealth's) action against the WA government;
It's widely accepted that the states can exercise border control in the pursuit of managing public health and other matters such as agricultural protection and quarantine so the matter will likely turn on the issue of reasonableness, that is, should Western Australia be allowed to impose a total border closure when that includes restricting travel from Tasmania and South Australia, states with very low new case counts. That's a bit of a slippery slope issue for a court and might likely come down to dualing public health experts. One way or another the matter will end up in the High Court so don't expect it to be resolved conclusively by the Federal Court next week.
The reason that any decision is unlikely to impact other states, say Queensland, is that if the ruling is based on reasonableness Queensland can probably demonstrate that they have been reasonable in their approach; they re-opened and then only re-imposed restrictions selectively based on point of origin new case data.
There are two issues for the Federal Court to consider in Clive's (and the Commonwealth's) action against the WA government;
- Can the states exercise border control in the pursuit of managing public health ostensibly contrary to the intent of s 92?
- If yes, is the states' right to do so absolute or must it be subject to some form of reasonableness test?
It's widely accepted that the states can exercise border control in the pursuit of managing public health and other matters such as agricultural protection and quarantine so the matter will likely turn on the issue of reasonableness, that is, should Western Australia be allowed to impose a total border closure when that includes restricting travel from Tasmania and South Australia, states with very low new case counts. That's a bit of a slippery slope issue for a court and might likely come down to dualing public health experts. One way or another the matter will end up in the High Court so don't expect it to be resolved conclusively by the Federal Court next week.
The reason that any decision is unlikely to impact other states, say Queensland, is that if the ruling is based on reasonableness Queensland can probably demonstrate that they have been reasonable in their approach; they re-opened and then only re-imposed restrictions selectively based on point of origin new case data.
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The Australian had an article a few days ago saying the expectation was that Bain would continue with the purchase but that their size would be significantly less than the 40 737’s touted
Where does the 40 come from, or is this a revised number ??
Would really be interested to see the Australian article that said all this.
