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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 01:50
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Originally Posted by Des Dimona
The problem with this if it goes to court is that there is not enough cash to keep the thing running in the event of a protracted dispute. The risk of liquidation is increased ?

Very messy.
Court proceedings would be very unlikely to delay the progression of the sale. Rule of thumb, if a matter can be resolved by the payment of monies then the courts are generally reluctant to grant interlocutory injunctions.
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 23:51
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ex SimpleFlying: Virgin Australia To Stay Based In Queensland Following $138m Offer

Complete Article link here: https://simpleflying.com/virgin-aust...ensland-offer/

An Extract here:

"Both bidders confirm Virgin Australia HQ to stay in Brisbane

Virgin Australia collapsed in April and has since been administered by global insolvency firm, Deloitte. There were some 20 parties initially interested in the airline. Deloitte whittled them down to two; Bain Capital and Cyrus Capital. The administrator confirmed in a statement on Monday that both parties had submitted final, binding bids to buy Virgin Australia.

It is believed the Queensland Government’s investment arm, the Queensland Investment Corporation (QIC), did a deal with both Bain and Cyrus on the weekend. It is reported that QIC offered US$138 million in benefits to keep the airline based in Brisbane and to take a stake in Virgin Australia.

..........."
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Old 24th Jun 2020, 00:27
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Has there been any word on the future of VARA with the 2 potential buyers?
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Old 24th Jun 2020, 02:14
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Any idea yet on the size of the two potential operations?
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Old 24th Jun 2020, 02:38
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The circus has just begun with the bondholders now making a takeover bid in an attempt to get some return on their investment.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...24-p555mf.html

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Old 24th Jun 2020, 09:54
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Originally Posted by Fujiroll76
Has there been any word on the future of VARA with the 2 potential buyers?
single fleet type = No A320, F100 therefore no more VARA based on the bidders press releases.
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Or sold separately the game is far from played just yet
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Old 24th Jun 2020, 10:05
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'The circus has just begun................'

Originally Posted by non_state_actor
The circus has just begun................

https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...24-p555mf.html
Hmmmm- So, ex Mr 'non_state's' quoted SMH article:

Faraday, lead by former Lazard and Goldman Sachs banker Lachlan Edwards and ex-Herbert Smith Freehills partner John Nestel.....
Therefore- we have, Faraday with Corrs Chambers Westgarth (engaged) + the previous experience/background of 'those' involved, ex Lazard & Goldman Sachs, then Freehills- accompanied by a $2Bil exposure...........

Reckon- Mr 'non_state', maybe onto 'something' here.....????

Deploy, The Big-Top...... or not..???

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Old 24th Jun 2020, 10:22
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Originally Posted by kddk
Or sold separately the game is far from played just yet
either way the A320's and F100's are no more like Tiger & VANZ.
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Old 24th Jun 2020, 12:49
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Let’s hope not as they do a very different role to the mainline operation and essentially are self contained within vara it may not be sold with the main operation but hopefully another party will pick up the game as it feeds a lot of people onto east coast flights
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 00:54
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VARA will definitely be gone, 737’s are more than capable of doing the viable destinations BRM KTA PHE and contracts with RIO like OCM ZNE.

With a single fleet of more than 80 737s, when many 73 will Have more attractive power by the hour leases for low utilisation WA weekday work, the 737 can do all A320 work with the benefit of dispatch reliability. They won’t need to base a VARA engineer in BME for the Fokker dispatch issues.

If a contract is not 73 economically viable they will just drop it, or get QQ to do it.

if they say it will be a single fleet there’s no future for them in the va mk2.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 02:48
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With a single fleet of more than 80 737s, when many 73 will Have more attractive power by the hour leases for low utilisation WA weekday work, the 737 can do all A320 work with the benefit of dispatch reliability. They won’t need to base a VARA engineer in BME for the Fokker dispatch issues
Isn't the whole reason why they got A320s because 737 cannot land at certain Mine Sites?
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 02:55
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Isn't the whole reason why they got A320s because 737 cannot land at certain Mine Sites?
VARA got their first A320 back in Skywest days well before VA bought them. It was brought in for the cloudbreak contract. The charter was operated by a VB 737 on a wet lease arrangement until skywest could introduce the A320.

The only runway that I know the 737 may be an issue with is Cocos Island, though I'm not familiar with all the mining strip's VARA fly to.

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Old 25th Jun 2020, 06:29
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Can't think of any mine sites that the A320 currently operates into that a 737 couldn't do the same. Anyone else?

BTW - Cocos Island will handle just about any aircraft. A 737 ain't a problem. It's also scheduled for a significant airport upgrade.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 07:53
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737 700 can do them all of which there are two remaining in the fleet. Welshpool likes to fly the A320's as much as possible on charter work, maybe they get the A320 leases for free, might have read that somewhere

VARA cancellations ex ADL / MEL when the A320 ventured east on weekends proved just how unreliable an operation it was. The loss of good will on the Indian ocean routes and Broome is unacceptable. Why would a ruthless corporate overlord gift mainline trunk routes like KGI KTA, ZNE, PHE, BME, DRW, ADL Plus subsidised Indian ocean work to another operator in the form of a VARA sale.

That's another Borghetti own goal, like TT following mainline on the same east coast sectors.

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Old 25th Jun 2020, 11:57
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Cocos Island is easy for the 737. Christmas Island can get a bit hairy as its not very long and has a slope. Can get a bit messy if you stuff it up.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 12:07
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C'mon, do you really think that after the announcement by Qantas today that any one in their right mind would buy an airline...and one owing $7b!?
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 12:34
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Geez, then Cyrus and Bain must love wasting time.

If the Qantas announcement today caught you by surprise you would be the only one.

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Old 25th Jun 2020, 12:47
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Why do you hate VA Obie? You seem to love everyone's pain.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 21:34
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Originally Posted by Obie
C'mon, do you really think that after the announcement by Qantas today that any one in their right mind would buy an airline...and one owing $7b!?
Aren’t you the genius who “predicted” that virgin would go into administration.......... 8 weeks after it had already been in administration?
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