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Old 8th May 2020, 11:56
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Originally Posted by SecretAngel
... the administrator has the power to cancel contracts ...
An administrator cannot cancel contacts unless there is a clause in the contact permitting the company to void the contract if it enters administration. These are known as ipso facto clauses. Such clauses that work in favour of the party entering administration are extraordinarily rare. Ipso facto clauses normally run the other way, they typically provide certain rights of relief to one party if the other party enters administration. However a recent amendment to the Corporations Act 2001 (specifically section 451E Stay on enforcing rights merely because the company is under administration etc.) now limits the enforcement of certain rights arising from ipso facto clauses.

A liquidator can disclaim a contact outright. The best that an administrator can do is repudiate contracts requiring performance by the company that the administrator cannot meet, such as the payment of monies that the administrator does not have. A repudiated contract is not cancelled, it is still in effect and the counterparty can sue for breach of it.
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Old 18th May 2020, 21:34
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Richard Branson is still in the game for Virgin V2 . According to the AFR he is potentially linked to Cryrus Capital Partners (who were one of the backers of Virgin America) and The Australian says he is linked to Bain in the final four contenders identified by Deloittes. The bad smell will not go away it appears and the Virgin name will still be on the tail.
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Old 19th May 2020, 02:46
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Originally Posted by Paragraph377
Wouldn’t surprise me in the least. Branson is chasing ‘money for jam’. Allowing the Virgin name and logo to remain on the aircraft and in the company earns him millions and millions of dollars per year for not having to lift a finger. Australia can do better than that. This is VA’s opportunity to start fresh with a clean sheet of paper. Why should the new company be connected to that pathetic git from the tax free haven of Necker island? VA mk 2 can surely do better than that. Branson is outdated, he isn’t an iconic brand. He is an opportunist and isn’t need in our country.
You talking about Aus or NZ?
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Old 19th May 2020, 04:01
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
An administrator cannot cancel contacts unless there is a clause in the contact permitting the company to void the contract if it enters administration. These are known as ipso facto clauses. Such clauses that work in favour of the party entering administration are extraordinarily rare. Ipso facto clauses normally run the other way, they typically provide certain rights of relief to one party if the other party enters administration. However a recent amendment to the Corporations Act 2001 (specifically section 451E Stay on enforcing rights merely because the company is under administration etc.) now limits the enforcement of certain rights arising from ipso facto clauses.

A liquidator can disclaim a contact outright. The best that an administrator can do is repudiate contracts requiring performance by the company that the administrator cannot meet, such as the payment of monies that the administrator does not have. A repudiated contract is not cancelled, it is still in effect and the counterparty can sue for breach of it.
& then there were no bidders at all.

Rex plan looking the best by far now, but how long before they have enough aircraft to fly to the regions like CNS ?

Wonder if they fast tracked, if V2 doesn't happen, how quickly they could be flying B738s around, probably ex VA, wirth ex VA crews.
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Old 19th May 2020, 08:21
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There is NO fast tracking with CASA. Many many months at a minimum. Rex would have to stand up an entire Operational structure that would more or less be separate to its current operation, and then have it approved by CASA.
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Old 19th May 2020, 12:55
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
An administrator cannot cancel contacts unless there is a clause in the contact permitting the company to void the contract if it enters administration. These are known as ipso facto clauses. Such clauses that work in favour of the party entering administration are extraordinarily rare. Ipso facto clauses normally run the other way, they typically provide certain rights of relief to one party if the other party enters administration. However a recent amendment to the Corporations Act 2001 (specifically section 451E Stay on enforcing rights merely because the company is under administration etc.) now limits the enforcement of certain rights arising from ipso facto clauses.

A liquidator can disclaim a contact outright. The best that an administrator can do is repudiate contracts requiring performance by the company that the administrator cannot meet, such as the payment of monies that the administrator does not have. A repudiated contract is not cancelled, it is still in effect and the counterparty can sue for breach of it.
​​​​​​Yeah, that's a fair call. It's only once the Administrator is at the point if proposing a deed of company arrangement, which is wherecwhere VA is heading, that contracts can be cancelled - with the agreement if the majority of creditors by number and value. The Administrator just has greater capacity to not comply with contractual obligations up til that point, since there are limits on creditors suing for enforcement or winding up while the company is in administration.
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Old 19th May 2020, 13:54
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Informed people are now asking how long Qantas can remain solvent. same with Universities. The suggestion is in all cases whole layers of management will need to be removed. The corollary to this is that the MBA is a dead letter; actual experience of that which you are managing will again (shock horror) become a prerequisite for senior roles......and perhaps Directorships.
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Old 19th May 2020, 19:56
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Old 19th May 2020, 21:10
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Didn't he quit with much fanfare?
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Old 19th May 2020, 21:22
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Sunfish can’t help it. Not only Is he back, but banging on about Qantas and universities on a thread supposedly about Virgin. ADHD?
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Old 19th May 2020, 22:17
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SUNNY, your back!
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Old 19th May 2020, 22:29
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He just couldn't help it.
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Old 19th May 2020, 22:52
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Qantas is already talking about restarting domestic flights in July STGA.. They are in a very different position to VA. BTW someone must have found some heavy duty disinfectant to apply to the dummy.
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Old 19th May 2020, 23:03
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Qantas starting in July will also reveal the true situation as to how Virgin (or a successor) is able to operate domestically (if at all).
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Old 19th May 2020, 23:19
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Welcome back Sunfish! That didn’t last long!
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Old 19th May 2020, 23:43
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He never went away, he was always lurking in the background.
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Old 19th May 2020, 23:52
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Sunny good to see you back
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Old 20th May 2020, 00:12
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Sunny good to see you back
Until next time...
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Old 20th May 2020, 02:00
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SUNNY, your back!
what's wrong with his back?
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Old 20th May 2020, 02:07
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