Mildura Rednecks wreck our fair go reputation
Iraq, Libya, Venezuela, Iran and possibly Saudi Arabia if they don’t continue to play the game have or will be subject to this show of force when having the arrogance to leave the reservation and become independent of the greenback.
Brushing aside the fact China is actually Australia's 9th biggest foreign investor, 35% of our trade is with China. Enough rubbish directed at them and they may actually take you up on that offer and cease their trade and sending of students to be educated in this country. And as a nation we'd be stuffed. Expect a large drop in wealth and living standards amongst all Australians.
In an Aviation context I'd gather a large proportion of flying training is conducted for Chinese students. Their aviation market is growing, and will continue to grow in the long term post Corona. A lot of Flying Instructors are employed to train those Chinese students. If they pull their students out then a lot of Instructors will be made redundant.
So I'll repeat my question from earlier in this thread:
Is anyone here prepared to look a young flying instructor in the eye and tell them they should lose their job because they personally don't want Chinese trainee pilots in the country?
In an Aviation context I'd gather a large proportion of flying training is conducted for Chinese students. Their aviation market is growing, and will continue to grow in the long term post Corona. A lot of Flying Instructors are employed to train those Chinese students. If they pull their students out then a lot of Instructors will be made redundant.
So I'll repeat my question from earlier in this thread:
Is anyone here prepared to look a young flying instructor in the eye and tell them they should lose their job because they personally don't want Chinese trainee pilots in the country?
"’Becoming independent of the greenback’ is certainly a novel description of the 1979 Islamic Revolution and what ensued."
Iran didnt cease transactions in the greenback for several decades after the revolution.
Iran didnt cease transactions in the greenback for several decades after the revolution.
The entire way of life in America can only exist as a result of the US selling its debt in the form of US Treasuries, debt that now stands at almost 25 trillion and growing more rapidly every year.
This creates an imperative whereby large scale trades, particularly oil, must be conducted in US dollars, a status quo that has existed since the gold window closed in 1971 thereby turning the US dollar into a de facto oil backed currency.
This creates an imperative whereby large scale trades, particularly oil, must be conducted in US dollars, a status quo that has existed since the gold window closed in 1971 thereby turning the US dollar into a de facto oil backed currency.
You have gone completely off topic with your petrodollar rant. Let's talk about peak oil, renewable energy and the fact America has become a net exporter of oil thanks to shale. The Petrodollar is under attack, forget weaponising Saudi Arabia who has now sat down with the Russians to scale bag production and stop the next negative oil price, which looks like occurring again when the next WTI contracts fall due.
Anyway, let's look at the definition of globalisation.
the process by which businesses or other organizations develop international influence or start operating on an international scale.
Have you taken into account the Vietnamese sailors that have drowned from Chinese coast guard vessels patrolling this disputed area under the jurisdiction of the CMC. But that's not a bodycount in your language right? Drowning when your vessel is rammed is death by natural causes.
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Indeed, dr dre.
China could easily discard Australia. It may choose to do so. Do you have a ‘Plan B’ for that contingency?
All those instructors are digging career graves, if not for themselves for those aspiring to be instructors in the future. China will find a new location to train their pilots. It’s a place called “China”.
As I said before, all those Australian-trained Chinese pilots are taking the know-how back home. It’s like the Australian farmers who are exporting herd cattle to China. One day China will say thanks for the know how (and the cattle), we now have the critical mass to do this ourselves, and goodbye.
There are short-term gains from sucking up to China. A lot of keyboard heroes are not willing to admit the long-term consequences of doing so.
Some of us desire a thriving flying training industry that’s training Australians to meet the demands of what should be a thriving general aviation sector in Australia. Unfortunately for the long-term interests of Australia (and flying instructors), the place is run on the basis of the the laziest way to the quickest bucks (and cheapest flat-screen TVs).
China could easily discard Australia. It may choose to do so. Do you have a ‘Plan B’ for that contingency?
All those instructors are digging career graves, if not for themselves for those aspiring to be instructors in the future. China will find a new location to train their pilots. It’s a place called “China”.
As I said before, all those Australian-trained Chinese pilots are taking the know-how back home. It’s like the Australian farmers who are exporting herd cattle to China. One day China will say thanks for the know how (and the cattle), we now have the critical mass to do this ourselves, and goodbye.
There are short-term gains from sucking up to China. A lot of keyboard heroes are not willing to admit the long-term consequences of doing so.
Some of us desire a thriving flying training industry that’s training Australians to meet the demands of what should be a thriving general aviation sector in Australia. Unfortunately for the long-term interests of Australia (and flying instructors), the place is run on the basis of the the laziest way to the quickest bucks (and cheapest flat-screen TVs).
Good points from Muttley too. China is everybody's largest trading partner at the moment. You can see their impact in the Pacific and Africa particularly. This is unsustainable. IMHO, they have gone as far as they can go, as long as they remain a militarist, expansionist, communist state. Covid is causing much of the world to withdraw supply chains from China and the CCP face growing isolation as a result of the economic crisis that has resulted. China's relative importance will slip as more open, more ethically aligned and increasingly prosperous democracies such as India and Indonesia rise. The CCP hegemon gorilla is likely to face economic and military containment from alliances that have already been formed, led by the other big hegemon 800-pound gorilla.
You have gone completely off topic with your petrodollar rant. Let's talk about peak oil, renewable energy and the fact America has become a net exporter of oil thanks to shale. The Petrodollar is under attack, forget weaponising Saudi Arabia who has now sat down with the Russians to scale bag production and stop the next negative oil price, which looks like occurring again when the next WTI contracts fall due.
Peak oil will occur, that much is for sure however it will be at a point way past the use by date of the petrodollar and past the point of peak demand also.
While it is true that America has become a net exporter of oil, this does not have much relevance to the importance of the petrodollar system and it certainly has not freed the US from being completely reliant on imports.
The shale boom has seen US oil imports decrease less than 20% overall with fluctuations up and down over the past six years.
There is a vast difference in the usability and refinability of oil imported into the US and exported from the US.
More importantly, even with the bounce back in crude prices as a result of production cuts in KSR and Russia, the price will remain low enough to see most fracking in the US disappear.
Make no mistake, the US is completely import dependent.
So you do realize there are other economies, not just the USA who engage in global trade. The greatest influencer has now become China, exporting deflation for the past decade. There are no guns in globalisation, just economies like China who are modernising their military thanks to global trade and now making territorial claims way beyond their own borders and deemed unlawful by an international tribunal.
Do you think the territorial claims China has over the Spratleys, largely uninhabited islands on their doorstop, come even close to the territorial expansion made by America? Or England? Past and present.
Irrelevant since you busted the Chinese Communist Party sneaking agents into country Victoria to yell racist abuse at their own students and try to blame it on salt of the earth Mildurans. The biggest "false-flag" operation since the Tea Party. Good work, Gnads.
Their plan didn't work anyway as no one but you and Dre seem to give a rat's if anyone yells at Chinese on the radio.
Their plan didn't work anyway as no one but you and Dre seem to give a rat's if anyone yells at Chinese on the radio.
Your last comment is deplorable. You seem to have a position as an apologist for racist heckling in this country. It's not a fair go, it's not even funny and thankfully, you even get kicked out the footy for such carry on these days.
As I said prior, Australia's future is based around trade and security alliances with countries that aren't always going to be white.
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I still can't buy all the simple anti-USA sentiment.
I'd invite some folks to go back to 1943. Start with the Ploesti raids. Then Potsdam. The rebuilding of Europe and Asia after WW2, oil demand and security in the face of the rise of communism. Then Arab nationalism. It's a complex mess. But run alternative histories. The US made plenty of errors and injustices. They were not the only guilty party. Their allies too and their enemies.
I'd invite some folks to go back to 1943. Start with the Ploesti raids. Then Potsdam. The rebuilding of Europe and Asia after WW2, oil demand and security in the face of the rise of communism. Then Arab nationalism. It's a complex mess. But run alternative histories. The US made plenty of errors and injustices. They were not the only guilty party. Their allies too and their enemies.
Irrelevant since you busted the Chinese Communist Party sneaking agents into country Victoria to yell racist abuse at their own students and try to blame it on salt of the earth Mildurans. The biggest "false-flag" operation since the Tea Party. Good work, Gnads.
As I said prior, Australia's future is based around trade and security alliances with countries that aren't always going to be white.
Oh, I don't know, call me naive but when it comes to being lied to from a politician I'd rather it be in a democracy where there's a fair to middling chance that the turds lieing will be discovered and them being held to account rather than in a totalitarian state where if they don't like you calling them out on their lieing you, a) get sent to a gulag for re-education, b) you disappear, are murdered and your organs harvested just in case old mate Xi needs them, c) end up in just a plain ole jail for months/years without charge or trial while they mess with your head.
I kinda like living in a society where the internet and media are not censored (apart from d!ckhead Zuckerburg's brand of censorship).
It helps to separate the good Chinese folk from the CCP. I had a 27 year old student that knew nothing about Tiananmen Square until he arrived in Australia. He also happened to be one of the funniest and personable blokes I've met, wanted the same things out of life for himself and his family. Will be a lifelong friend.
Perhaps if the rest the rest of the world didn't demand the US be the World Police (f@ck yeah) and stopped whinging when they did & didn't intervene we'd be all sweet? Yeah/Nah, evil has a nasty habit of gaining the upper hand when neutrals stand around and watch.
I kinda like living in a society where the internet and media are not censored (apart from d!ckhead Zuckerburg's brand of censorship).
It helps to separate the good Chinese folk from the CCP. I had a 27 year old student that knew nothing about Tiananmen Square until he arrived in Australia. He also happened to be one of the funniest and personable blokes I've met, wanted the same things out of life for himself and his family. Will be a lifelong friend.
Perhaps if the rest the rest of the world didn't demand the US be the World Police (f@ck yeah) and stopped whinging when they did & didn't intervene we'd be all sweet? Yeah/Nah, evil has a nasty habit of gaining the upper hand when neutrals stand around and watch.
Got it 012, “US bad. China, well, have you seen what the US did…”
The US is little different to the Roman empire and it doesn't make them “bad”, just predictable.
still can't buy all the simple anti-USA sentiment.
I'd invite some folks to go back to 1943.
I'd invite some folks to go back to 1943.
Oh, I don't know, call me naive but when it comes to being lied to from a politician I'd rather it be in a democracy
where there's a fair to middling chance that the turds lieing will be discovered and them being held to account rather than in a totalitarian state
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Oh, I don't know, call me naive but when it comes to being lied to from a politician I'd rather it be in a democracy where there's a fair to middling chance that the turds lieing will be discovered and them being held to account rather than in a totalitarian state where if they don't like you calling them out on their lieing you, a) get sent to a gulag for re-education, b) you disappear, are murdered and your organs harvested just in case old mate Xi needs them, c) end up in just a plain ole jail for months/years without charge or trial while they mess with your head.
I kinda like living in a society where the internet and media are not censored (apart from d!ckhead Zuckerburg's brand of censorship).
It helps to separate the good Chinese folk from the CCP. I had a 27 year old student that knew nothing about Tiananmen Square until he arrived in Australia. He also happened to be one of the funniest and personable blokes I've met, wanted the same things out of life for himself and his family. Will be a lifelong friend.
Perhaps if the rest the rest of the world didn't demand the US be the World Police (f@ck yeah) and stopped whinging when they did & didn't intervene we'd be all sweet? Yeah/Nah, evil has a nasty habit of gaining the upper hand when neutrals stand around and watch.
I kinda like living in a society where the internet and media are not censored (apart from d!ckhead Zuckerburg's brand of censorship).
It helps to separate the good Chinese folk from the CCP. I had a 27 year old student that knew nothing about Tiananmen Square until he arrived in Australia. He also happened to be one of the funniest and personable blokes I've met, wanted the same things out of life for himself and his family. Will be a lifelong friend.
Perhaps if the rest the rest of the world didn't demand the US be the World Police (f@ck yeah) and stopped whinging when they did & didn't intervene we'd be all sweet? Yeah/Nah, evil has a nasty habit of gaining the upper hand when neutrals stand around and watch.
Originally Posted by Dr Dre
I love how racist conspiracy theorists always pull the "false flag" card when one of their own is caught being stupid.
Hey, Juud… any word on the status of our "fair-go reputation" after all the hoo-hah in Mildura?
I also agree, although it would be nice if the “turds” were “discovered” and “held to account” BEFORE lying their way into wars that destroy nations and kill hundreds and thousands of innocent people instead of AFTER, as is most usually the case.
I could probably get drunk with you but you read like a bit of a bogan and Gnads would look down his nose at you and sniff with disdain.
