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Old 27th Apr 2020, 06:31
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Pointing a laser towards an aircraft is an offense! In case you didn’t know that Muttey Crew.
Looks like there are Rednecks everywhere amongst us. Grow up and argue fairly.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 07:58
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Can you use someones own laser to designate them as a target? Maybe a lockon would make them think :-)
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Boo hoo! You guys are amazing, sounds like most have never been north of the Murray. Racism!..this will be like water off a Peking ducks back. I spent 20 years living in China, I can tell you about racism, this is laughable.

Yes, this is a country of bogans, always has been, always will be. Just look at what we watch on TV or who we hold up as heroes. What is more offensive are those who see themselves as better than your average bogan.

And this myth about having a reputation of giving others a "fair go", dream on.
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Originally Posted by Eagle Eye 9
Pointing a laser towards an aircraft is an offense! In case you didn’t know that Muttey Crew.
Looks like there are Rednecks everywhere amongst us. Grow up and argue fairly.
An admin seriously approved this post?
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 12:37
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Originally Posted by Muttley Crew
I'd be quite happy to see the Chinese pull all their money (and virus) out and hand back the farms, dairies, infrastructure, etc the short term thinkers here have sold them.
Brushing aside the fact China is actually Australia's 9th biggest foreign investor, 35% of our trade is with China. Enough rubbish directed at them and they may actually take you up on that offer and cease their trade and sending of students to be educated in this country. And as a nation we'd be stuffed. Expect a large drop in wealth and living standards amongst all Australians.

In an Aviation context I'd gather a large proportion of flying training is conducted for Chinese students. Their aviation market is growing, and will continue to grow in the long term post Corona. A lot of Flying Instructors are employed to train those Chinese students. If they pull their students out then a lot of Instructors will be made redundant.

So I'll repeat my question from earlier in this thread:

Is anyone here prepared to look a young flying instructor in the eye and tell them they should lose their job because they personally don't want Chinese trainee pilots in the country?
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 13:03
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Originally Posted by Octane
Can you use someones own laser to designate them as a target? Maybe a lockon would make them think :-)
Erm, yes.

However state players (of which both parties here were signatories) are bound by the UN 1980 Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons/ 1995 Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons.

http://www.weaponslaw.org/instrument...ional-weapons/

Blinding laser weapons | Weapons Law Encyclopedia

Bogans will be bogans, sometimes the problem can be alleviated with jail time.

State players that have promised not to, but do it anyway, are a different animal.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 21:15
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Originally Posted by Muttley Crew
I'd be quite happy to see the Chinese pull all their money (and virus) out and hand back the farms, dairies, infrastructure, etc the short term thinkers here have sold them.
OK, well, good luck then if that happens. China is worth more than double to Australia than its second biggest trading partner. Without China, Australia is knackered.

The Chinese kids learning circuits and bumps in Mildura have ZERO to do with government policy from Beijing, trade, investment.

Its sad the idiots abusing them dont spend the time studying up on global economics and neo liberalism, they may learn who the real enemy is.

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Old 27th Apr 2020, 21:32
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Originally Posted by Muttley Crew
I'm glad we're all agreed on gettting rid of their investment in this country. We don't need it or them. It might hurt a bit... for a while. But we'll live.
You’ll live but look at Argentina or Greece to see what Australia’s economy will look like. It’ll hurt for a while- yeah a few decades perhaps.

For the record I don’t agree with getting rid of Chinese investment or trade at all. With a recession looming Australia will need it to survive.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 22:04
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It’s worth noting that of the first 56 cases, 14 came from China, 42 from the USA.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 23:39
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Without China, Australia is knackered.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

And before you say “it’s a fact”, it is, in fact, a choice made by a few and thrust on the many. It may be that the many are willing to sacrifice self-sufficiency and instead rely on a communist dictatorship in return for ‘economic prosperity’, but the many weren’t asked. And despite the ‘economic prosperity’ the actual standard of living of the many in Australia has been going backwards for quite a while.

The flying training schools churning out foreign pilots remind me of the folly of allowing exports of herd cattle to China. Short term gain in return for a business grave in the long term.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 23:46
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Oh really? I thought harmless, larrikin bogans are part of the very "fair go" culture in the thread topic. Maaaaate… they're quintessentially Aussie, like vegemite, ANZACs and Dawn Fraser.

I'd be quite happy to see the Chinese pull all their money (and virus) out and hand back the farms, dairies, infrastructure, etc the short term thinkers here have sold them.

I didn't know bogans understood VHF radios. Given they know the frequencies, understand single duplex jamming and have radios these "rednecks" might in fact be your winged brethren voicing their patriotic beliefs. Depending on how things turn out (unlikely) you might be eating your words in the future as a collaborator!


The bigger safety hazard would be the constant and overpowering fetid stench of rotting fish in unflossed teeth being breathed in close confines.

Nothing cute about heckling, racist bogans. And by the looks of your post you have close family associations with them.

Trouble is, the future will require smart Australians, to secure and grow our economy, as well as negotiating and working within complex national defence pacts with new allies as the rise of China goes who knows where? Our traditional western military reliances are not enough. Our new allies, trading partners, investors in our economy and tourists who fall in love with our country, will be persons of colour. Our traditional western military reliances are not enough.

Racist bogans will need to wake up to these realities and generate a genuine patriotism. Otherwise their kids will be the white trash of Asia too.

And don't pull the ANZAC crap. It's a bit like Godwin's law on feverish debates of anything Australian. Sure know plenty who fought who wouldn't be proud of racist bogans who heckle the vulnerable and who feel painting their face and running around, draped in the Australian flag, once a year, constitutes an unquestionable patriotism.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 00:01
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Came for the casual racism, stayed for the insightful analysis.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 00:03
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

And before you say “it’s a fact”, it is, in fact, a choice made by a few and thrust on the many. It may be that the many are willing to sacrifice self-sufficiency and instead rely on a communist dictatorship in return for ‘economic prosperity’, but the many weren’t asked. And despite the ‘economic prosperity’ the actual standard of living of the many in Australia has been going backwards for quite a while.
I agree, a choice made by the wealthy and powerful clique that run our country all in the name of cheap manufacturing. We were not consulted but make no mistake, we love to participate.

Are you suggesting we should be self sufficient from China or the global market place in general? If just China, why?

When we were selling lots of cars to Saudi Arabia were you concerned that it was to a "dictatorship" also?

What do you think the outcome would be were Australia to vote on withdrawing from trade with China? "Hand the flatscreen telly back and go out and start making flat screen telly's Trevor!"

Wow, have we strayed a long way from the topic.




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Old 28th Apr 2020, 00:11
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

And before you say “it’s a fact”, it is, in fact, a choice made by a few and thrust on the many. It may be that the many are willing to sacrifice self-sufficiency and instead rely on a communist dictatorship in return for ‘economic prosperity’, but the many weren’t asked. And despite the ‘economic prosperity’ the actual standard of living of the many in Australia has been going backwards for quite a while.

The flying training schools churning out foreign pilots remind me of the folly of allowing exports of herd cattle to China. Short term gain in return for a business grave in the long term.
Any reliance on China needs to be assessed on national security grounds. But how is training pilots at the most elemental civilian level a national security threat?

In a decade, forecast trade with Indonesia and India will be significantly greater. Do we pull the pin with these guys because bogans don't like Asians or colours on our city streets? Do we not increase military cooperation with both those countries, or Japan for instance, as a counter to an aggressive China?

China in some ways is trying to do what the Japanese navy could not do in 1942. Isolate Australia from a weakened America so its rise in the Pacific is unfettered. We will need a strong economy, as well as a sense of decency, beyond the ridiculous notion above of bogan fair go, to face the upcoming challenges.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 00:39
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Trouble is, the future will require smart Australians, to secure and grow our economy, as well as negotiating and working within complex national defence pacts with new allies as the rise of China goes who knows where?
There in lies the problem. We’ve never valued intelligence, academia or book smarts in this country. We salivate over dumb sports “stars”, cashed up tradies and pollies who “speak like a true blue Aussie”. “Academic elite” is a term of scorn in Australia. In Asian society it’s the highest thing someone can aspire to. One look at the Australian media and political landscape and you see all of them pandering to the lowest common denominator. Asian society values higher education and learning.

Lee Kwan Yew was right. Australians are the “poor white trash” of Asia.

In an aviation context the one thing we can promote (basic flying training for foreign students) is attacked by locals afraid of the “Yellow menace” and populist politicians who claim these flying schools are a backdoor for a Chinese invasion. Media scaremongers about it and then politicians pander to those easily influenced by the scaremongering.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 01:16
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Racist bogans will need to wake up to these realities and generate a genuine patriotism. Otherwise their kids will be the white trash of Asia too.
i'm sorry did you just call out racism while in the same breath referring to another group as "white trash" ?
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I believe he/she was paraphrasing? Big difference.

Oh yeah, I'm with Lee.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 01:20
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I agree, a choice made by the wealthy and powerful clique that run our country all in the name of cheap manufacturing. We were not consulted but make no mistake, we love to participate.
Do “we”? On what basis do you presume to speak for everyone? I think you’ll find that this pandemic has resulted in a lot more of “us” questioning the value of the “love affair” (to extend your metaphor) with China.


Are you suggesting we should be self sufficient from China or the global market place in general? If just China, why?
Not just China, but at least China because it is a communist dictatorship and Chinese companies are ultimately the tools of a communist dictatorship. You may have missed the news reports of Chinese companies in Australia directing their employees to vacuum up as many medical supplies as they could get their hands on in Australia then shipping them to China earlier in the year. China’s long term plans are not implemented for the benefit of Australians.


When we were selling lots of cars to Saudi Arabia were you concerned that it was to a "dictatorship" also?
Yes. The ruling elite there are barbaric animals. I will rejoice on the day that their oil runs out (or can’t be sold) and they have nothing left but sand to sell.


What do you think the outcome would be were Australia to vote on withdrawing from trade with China? "Hand the flatscreen telly back and go out and start making flat screen telly's Trevor!"
Perhaps the standard of living of the average Australian would be better if, instead of being mature aged babies, they understood that throwing last year’s flat screen TV and other devices onto the ever-growing piles of e-waste at the rubbish tip is good for the likes of billionaires like Gerry Harvey and his counterparts in other countries, and few else.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 01:28
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China is our largest trading partner, ya can't just turn off a tap, go to bed wake up the following day and go about business as usual! We have dug a hole so deep in this matter that there is no way out!
Our way of life revolves around 'choice'!
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China could chose to ‘turn off the tap’. China’s long term plans are not implemented for the benefit of Australians.
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