Future of Jetstar
Maybe not.
If senior pilots are down trained, then so is everyone else who is displaced by these senior pilots taking their position.
100 senior wide body pilots being down trained and displacing 100 narrow body pilots means a total of 200 pilots to train.
Plus what happens when the wide body positions return?
These senior pilots will now need to be retrained to fly the wide body again, plus other pilots will need to be retrained to fill the vacated positions on the narrow body.
If senior pilots are down trained, then so is everyone else who is displaced by these senior pilots taking their position.
100 senior wide body pilots being down trained and displacing 100 narrow body pilots means a total of 200 pilots to train.
Plus what happens when the wide body positions return?
These senior pilots will now need to be retrained to fly the wide body again, plus other pilots will need to be retrained to fill the vacated positions on the narrow body.
i don’t think you have thought this through.
So Jetstar Australia are looking at recruiting yet across the Tasman they have screwed the NZ Pilots who are all sitting around do sweet f all flying and getting paid about 40% of what they normally do. Sounds fair!!!
Should QF have gone down the path of VANZ and wound up JQNZ completely?
Not comparable to VANZ as they didn’t operate domestically. I think the nz domestic market is taking more time due to lack of intl tourism but that seems like a great opportunity to utilise nz based crews to plug gaps in Australia. Just like they used Aussie crews to plug gaps in nz in the before times....
Watch this space, NZ crews will be overnighting in Australia shortly to fly some Tasman services which can only originate in OZ due to aircraft shortage in NZ. Aircraft can't be moved to NZ due to the massive subsidised services being operated domestically in OZ and the capacity war underway there. I know it stinks but the NZ domestic market has not recovered to anywhere near the extent of Australia due to the Jacinda Fairy not bestowing any support to the domestic travel or tourism sector, it as simple as that.
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Watch this space, NZ crews will be overnighting in Australia shortly to fly some Tasman services which can only originate in OZ due to aircraft shortage in NZ. Aircraft can't be moved to NZ due to the massive subsidised services being operated domestically in OZ and the capacity war underway there. I know it stinks but the NZ domestic market has not recovered to anywhere near the extent of Australia due to the Jacinda Fairy not bestowing any support to the domestic travel or tourism sector, it as simple as that.
Given what plenty of Australian pilots have been getting paid (and in some cases may be for the next couple of years), you’d best keep quiet about your 40% or you might find you’re getting hit up for a loan.
Jetstar Australia are still screwing plenty of Australian based EBA pilots.
remind me again where Air NZ’s current funding is coming from, eating $40 million per month out of the Government loan to keep the airline flying is not something that exactly shouts some grand recovery. Just because Air NZ are flying 85% of thier domestic schedule doesn’t mean there is solid demand there without losing money. By the way Jetstar NZ is flying 75% of their precovid schedule....... sadly though they are crewed for 100% domestic with another 2 airframes worth of crew to cover the Tasman. Things will return quickly for the kiwi’s ONCE a Tasman bubble is up and operating, no plans can be announced or schedule crewed until the Pixie in Wellington actually makes a firm announcement. Blame her, not Qantas.
If 100 senior wide body pilots displace 100 narrow body pilots, what training does this trigger for narrow body pilots? Aren't they out the door? The only reason 100 senior wide body pilots get to displace narrow body pilots is if there is redundancy. Therefore your math is wrong.
If you retrench the 100 most junior FO's, this means 100 junior captains will have to be retrained to be an FO again.
Did Jetstar screw the NZ Pilots, or did the NZ pilots screw themselves? I thought the NZ pilots agreed to a EBA variation to casualise themselves and give themselves a pay cut. You can hardly blame Jetstar for being exploitative ruthless pricks, particularly when NZ pilots agreed to it!! Jetstar have proven time and time again what type of people they are. The scorpion and the frog fable comes to mind.
Jetstar Australia are still screwing plenty of Australian based EBA pilots.
Jetstar Australia are still screwing plenty of Australian based EBA pilots.
agree to this variation or we will make you all redundant is hardly a negotiation and agreement by the pilots
remind me again where Air NZ’s current funding is coming from, eating $40 million per month out of the Government loan to keep the airline flying is not something that exactly shouts some grand recovery. Just because Air NZ are flying 85% of thier domestic schedule doesn’t mean there is solid demand there without losing money. By the way Jetstar NZ is flying 75% of their precovid schedule....... sadly though they are crewed for 100% domestic with another 2 airframes worth of crew to cover the Tasman. Things will return quickly for the kiwi’s ONCE a Tasman bubble is up and operating, no plans can be announced or schedule crewed until the Pixie in Wellington actually makes a firm announcement. Blame her, not Qantas.
jetstar has come out and told the NZ pilots that Aussie EBA pilots will be flying the Tasman.
Hell will freeze over before wide body pilots displace narrow body pilots at Jetstar. Their EBA is as clear as mud on the issue. A few SO and FO upgrades might happen but no 787 captain is going to displace a 320 captain. Anyone that thinks JQ will spend money on this is living in dream land.
Thats just not true, Jetstar started on this weeks townhall that the Tasman will be operated 50/50 between NZ and OZ based crew with Jetstar moving most Tasman work back to NZ as aircraft become available. Some Taxman will remain in OZ as EBA Crew we’re doing a proportion of it pre covid so will retain that.