Future of Jetstar
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Do B787 pilots get paid more than the A320 pilots on the basis that it is a larger aircraft ? That would tend to support the argument for a pay increase.
However, does a B787-10 pilot get more than a B787-8 pilot ? That would tend to counter the argument.
Unfortunately, there is enough commonality between the A320 and A321 for management to claim that it’s simply a variation and not a different type. A320 to A330 would be a different matter.
However, does a B787-10 pilot get more than a B787-8 pilot ? That would tend to counter the argument.
Unfortunately, there is enough commonality between the A320 and A321 for management to claim that it’s simply a variation and not a different type. A320 to A330 would be a different matter.
Delta Captain 5 years. 900hrs
A319/20- $217 usd
A321- $227k usd
763- $233k
764- 265k
A319/20- $217 usd
A321- $227k usd
763- $233k
764- 265k
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Pay rates in USA are heavily based on weight and aircraft complexity.
Closer to home, once upon a time the QF SH award saw pilots operating the B734 (approx 140 seats) and B738 (approx 170 seats) for the same pay rates.
I understand your point with weight/size/seats vs pay but it’s probably worth pointing out, for a fairer picture, that those figures would be the absolute minimum. They don’t take into account all the additional pay due to “soft pay” clauses in the DAL contract and certainly not the US equivalent of super contributions or for that matter, profit sharing payments. The average PS in 2019 was probably around $30-40k, across the entire pilot group. Not that anyone will be getting PS for a long time to come.
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Delta Captain 5 years. 900hrs
A319/20- $217 usd
A321- $227k usd
763- $233k
764- 265k
A319/20- $217 usd
A321- $227k usd
763- $233k
764- 265k
Probably works better for FOs who still have the same sort of pay jump at the lower base.
Delta Pilots have had significant increases over the last few years, more than most others, and at a rate that AJ would go into cardiac arrest if he had a glance at some of the increases.
But yes, it’s a fairytale down under, forget it.
Not sure where these figures are coming from as US Airlines generally get paid per flight hour.
The latest pay table for Delta: https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...elta_air_lines
If you want a US LCC comparison go look at the Spirit figures here:
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...pirit_airlines
Even Spirit manage to pay a little bit extra for flying the A321!!
The latest pay table for Delta: https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...elta_air_lines
If you want a US LCC comparison go look at the Spirit figures here:
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...pirit_airlines
Even Spirit manage to pay a little bit extra for flying the A321!!
Would anyone really want to work to the US airline system? Your pay and pension (superannuation) can be cut at anytime and the furlough provisions make our current standowns look like a short break. It doesn't really matter what they are getting paid lets look at their conditions under which they work. Personally I would not want to be facing a standown everytime the economy had a hiccup.
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Had to laugh watching newly anointed COO fookin Gerry Turner speaking dribble on his latest YouTube clip. He is really starting to look like a small Peter Garrett. But to his credit, always cheery and smiling. I guess I would too if I had Uncle Alan looking after me for all these years making sure I get paid top dollar to do nothing spectacular. It’s good to be the king.
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Had to laugh watching newly anointed COO fookin Gerry Turner speaking dribble on his latest YouTube clip. He is really starting to look like a small Peter Garrett. But to his credit, always cheery and smiling. I guess I would too if I had Uncle Alan looking after me for all these years making sure I get paid top dollar to do nothing spectacular. It’s good to be the king.
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Anything is possible. While Alan is at Qantas Gerry will always have a wing to hide beneath. Mates rates runs very strong with Alan. If Alan ever leaves, then Gerrys lifeline will be gone and he would eventually follow Alan to another airline or somebody like Jayne would pick him up. It’s one big club and none of you are invited!
