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Old 9th Apr 2020, 22:09
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Originally Posted by f1yhigh
What about all the WA intrastate FIFO flights?
FIFO flights will continue, as will the XCH/CCK run. Unless the mining sector shuts down, these flights are the one guaranteed income stream. Not operating them will cost money VA simply doesn't have.
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Old 9th Apr 2020, 22:32
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Originally Posted by ABP
Qantas about to announce 1B737, 1A230 and 1DH8 operation too.
Qantas are operating some flights in addition to SYD-MEL…..not many, but a few.
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 00:44
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Originally Posted by regional_flyer
FIFO flights will continue, as will the XCH/CCK run. Unless the mining sector shuts down, these flights are the one guaranteed income stream. Not operating them will cost money VA simply doesn't have.
I'm personally counting on those flights to keep working.
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 01:38
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VA's problem is that any pax needing to travel won't buy a ticket on them in case they shut down quickly which is what has effectively happened hence safer booking on QF which is still carrying a few on selected routes....

From inside the Govt, they are worried that any money to VA will be siphoned off to their owners and selected creditors and they don't wish to effectively fund overseas owners by the 'back door'"...
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 01:51
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Originally Posted by regional_flyer
FIFO flights will continue, as will the XCH/CCK run. Unless the mining sector shuts down, these flights are the one guaranteed income stream. Not operating them will cost money VA simply doesn't have.
Not sure about the mining FIFO flights but to regional centres such as Karratha and Port Hedland you can't book them on the website anymore.
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 02:00
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Originally Posted by TBM-Legend
VA's problem is that any pax needing to travel won't buy a ticket on them in case they shut down quickly which is what has effectively happened hence safer booking on QF which is still carrying a few on selected routes....

From inside the Govt, they are worried that any money to VA will be siphoned off to their owners and selected creditors and they don't wish to effectively fund overseas owners by the 'back door'"...
It shouldn’t be that hard. Underwrite VA and QF to operate three services a week each (differing days) between the capital cities and possibly some major regional centres. Agree a block hourly rate and provide as a rebate on service completion. Keeps air routes, and therefore connectivity, open and some people still in jobs.

Better than providing a lump sum.
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 02:58
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VA operated a 777 out of Brisbane to Hong Kong at 10.30 this morning. Freight ?
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 03:05
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Originally Posted by veryoldchinahand
VA operated a 777 out of Brisbane to Hong Kong at 10.30 this morning. Freight ?
Repatriation flight. It continues to Paris from Hong Kong.
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 07:47
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It shouldn't be that hard. Underwrite VA and QF to operate three services a week each (differing days) between the capital cities and possibly some major regional centres.


Totally agree with your comments, try and book a QF flight anywhere on the SYD BNE SYD sectors at the moment. Flights a few days in advance are unavailable more than likely due to nil seats available (they were there this morning). Try East Coast to Perth!!

Maybe VA is playing strategically in order to bargain for Govt Funding, but if not and is simply unable to fund flights, it can only cause further heartache to the economy.
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 07:50
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Originally Posted by ABP
Repatriation flight. It continues to Paris from Hong Kong.
I think that one today is just a HKG return.

The Paris flight starts in Auckland. The agreement with France was NZ traffic.

Should be a positioning flight to AKL tomorrow for BNE-AKL-HKG-CDG and return empty CDG-HKG, before another rep flight HKG-BNE
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 10:41
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Originally Posted by Square Bear
@ Pavement

Totally agree with your comments, try and book a QF flight anywhere on the SYD BNE SYD sectors at the moment. Flights a few days in advance are unavailable more than likely due to nil seats available (they were there this morning). Try East Coast to Perth!!

Maybe VA is playing strategically in order to bargain for Govt Funding, but if not and is simply unable to fund flights, it can only cause further heartache to the economy.
More than likely suspended from sale versus sold out
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 13:20
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Originally Posted by TBM-Legend
VA's problem is that any pax needing to travel won't buy a ticket on them in case they shut down quickly which is what has effectively happened hence safer booking on QF which is still carrying a few on selected routes....
Already happened, wife booked and paid for BNE to PER Wednesday 8th evening, rang arvo of the 9th to say cancelled. Others were booking and paying right up to the announcement. Offered credits but they can't even say when the route will resume, and with the requirement to ask for compassionate exemptions into WA you need to stick to your approved dates. We've rebooked for the 24th on Qantas but I have little faith they'll still be operating then.
I really do hope its a ploy to have the govt step in and guarantee a couple of flights a week around the major cities, otherwise a lot of people will be stuck far from home for an extended time. Regional areas in WA are already hurting with limited to no flights now, so facing multi day drives to attend medical care in Perth.
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 14:46
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Originally Posted by chute packer
Already happened, wife booked and paid for BNE to PER Wednesday 8th evening, rang arvo of the 9th to say cancelled. Others were booking and paying right up to the announcement. Offered credits but they can't even say when the route will resume, and with the requirement to ask for compassionate exemptions into WA you need to stick to your approved dates. We've rebooked for the 24th on Qantas but I have little faith they'll still be operating then.
I really do hope its a ploy to have the govt step in and guarantee a couple of flights a week around the major cities, otherwise a lot of people will be stuck far from home for an extended time. Regional areas in WA are already hurting with limited to no flights now, so facing multi day drives to attend medical care in Perth.
Not judging as I don't know your situation, but curious why your wife didn't get back to PER earlier when she still could?
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Old 11th Apr 2020, 03:39
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Well it involves her 87 year old grandmother, the wife being her only family she has in the southern hemisphere, a heart attack 4 weeks ago, one she wasn't expected to survive but has, and having just got out of hospital 3 days ago we thought it best she not be forced to go out shopping or to her doctors while changing a significant amount of medication and so on. Once we saw the WA border was going to close we approached our MP here to help with a compassionate exemption to get back into WA which they said would be no problem given the circumstances, so we figured a week or so to get all the above sorted and her set back up in her unit with shopping and prescriptions filled etc to last a month, so date chosen to leave, flight booked and then...........

Now if Qantas withdraw services it's quite possible that by trying to do the right thing by family, she's going to be stuck for some time, luckily my employer is excellent so far, I've spent 2 weeks flexi time getting the kids off to school and starting late, but with it being strongly advised to take the kids out of school I have now had 2 weeks working from home and luckily still have a job when this is all over.

Not every situation is black and white.

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Old 11th Apr 2020, 04:18
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Money in Virgin Travel Bank

So, I have money from cancellations due to COVID-19 in the Virgin Travel Bank. If Virgin does not survive am I a secured or unsecured creditor?
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Old 11th Apr 2020, 04:36
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I think you are unsecured - This type of credit would sit behind any secured creditor including staff.
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Old 11th Apr 2020, 07:08
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It would be just like all the Velocity members.
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Old 11th Apr 2020, 22:21
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So they advertise a flight, take your cash & then cancel the flight & only offer a travel credit for a business that may not be around when you are able to use that credit. If they cancel the flight, you should get your cash back.

Typical of of the way things are structured these days. Everything flows towards business & the rest of society just gets screwed over.
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Old 11th Apr 2020, 23:47
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So, I have money from cancellations due to COVID-19 in the Virgin Travel Bank. If Virgin does not survive am I a secured or unsecured creditor?
If you have paid with a credit card and you don't receive the goods, you WILL get your money back.
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Old 12th Apr 2020, 08:35
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I would recommend getting a refund ASAP from this mob. Call your credit card holder immediately.
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