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Old 7th Apr 2020, 02:03
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Air NZ pilot redundancies

A minimum of 387 jobs gone just like that. Expect there will be FA jobs to be added to the total in larger numbers; sad day.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12322688
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Old 7th Apr 2020, 02:14
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Was it Last in, First Out? That’s what one article claims.

Not much in regards to fleet position post Covid, however the -200ER will probably be shelved. Thats 1/3 of widebody capacity.

Sadly thats a lot of Pilots out of work across VA and NZ. Yet to hear about the other two yet.

They also were looking at paths for those to return in the future, but I don’t think we will be at 2019 fleet/pilot numbers until the next decade. Then there will be an issue of so many people walking away from the industry right now, either retiring or switching industries due oversupply, that there will be a lack of bods long term.
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Old 7th Apr 2020, 02:47
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Unfortunately this is just the start for ANZ pilot redundancies. I hope those that are let go keep there seniority number so given a few years they maybe re hired.
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Old 7th Apr 2020, 02:53
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Sad times indeed.

Doesn’t include regionals yet either.

It’s a shame those that are just starting out, with large student loans and mortgages, many with young families will be impacted the worst. What’s frightening is this is just the beginning.
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So it this just off the jet fleet? How many jet pilots are there?.
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Old 7th Apr 2020, 03:14
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Originally Posted by Ollie Onion
So it this just off the jet fleet? How many jet pilots are there?.
1200 odd jet pilots but roughly 100 of those are Link pilots sitting on the seniority list but still employed by Links. It’s around 280 active jet pilots who are facing redundancies.
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Old 7th Apr 2020, 03:17
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Why don’t they give the pilots the option of indefinite LWOP? Wouldn’t that be a win for both parties? Or does the accrual of sick leave make that more expensive than redundancy?
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To be honest, if you can get a redundancy payout and then retain your seniority with future jobs being offered to redundant pilots in order then that would be a better outcome financially for quite a few pilots as opposed to just an endless period of LWOP. I just feel sorry for all of us who through no fault of our own or our companies have potentially seen our flying careers knocked on the head. So many mates who have lost and are losing jobs with many, including myself, just waiting for the axe to fall.
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Originally Posted by KiwiAvi8er
1200 odd jet pilots but roughly 100 of those are Link pilots sitting on the seniority list but still employed by Links. It’s around 280 active jet pilots who are facing redundancies.
Who are they actually employed by Air New Zealand jet or the Links. Are they not on LWOP from Air New Zealand which indicates they are employed by Air NZ?

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If they actually get rid of 387 then it’s all the way up the list to junior A320 captains. Take a while to replace every single A320 FO.
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Originally Posted by Slezy9
If they actually get rid of 387 then it’s all the way up the list to junior A320 captains. Take a while to replace every single A320 FO.
No it isn’t , you have to go a fair way up to get to a bus captain.
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OK, fair enough, it's very close. Less than 30 A320 FO's.
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How many years service have these guys/girls had that will be made redundant?

As a pilot of another jet operation based in NZ, it’s extremely saddening to hear and also very close to home. Thoughts going out to all affected.
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4 1/2 years (2015). So pretty significant service. A large majority are ex link legends too which is bloody sad
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Originally Posted by go123
4 1/2 years (2015). So pretty significant service. A large majority are ex link legends too which is bloody sad
Wow. Literally lost for words.
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Are the Link pilots and Jet pilots on separate seniority lists. If not, how will Link pilots be affected by this?
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Any redundancies forecast at QF ?
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Originally Posted by pisstin broke
Are the Link pilots and Jet pilots on separate seniority lists. If not, how will Link pilots be affected by this?
Yes separate lists. No word on how many Link redundancies yet.
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Does anybody know if any figures are out about Turbo Prop redundancies?
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Originally Posted by 27/09
Who are they actually employed by Air New Zealand jet or the Links. Are they not on LWOP from Air New Zealand which indicates they are employed by Air NZ?
They haven’t resigned from their original role, that happens when they’re given a start date.
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