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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 03:45
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
The people listened in those places. They obey orders.

The people in this country do not. Someone just sent me a Photo of Westfield Penrith. It’s busy and people just couldn’t give a ****.

You know the people that mid cyclone in the
far north all rave on at the local drink like heroes, it’s these people that are the problem.

The airlines just need to throw in the towel with Domestic all together. I had 220 up to Cairns the other day. God knows how many had it.
Let's just accept that Darwinian theory is well in place here.

I for one am glad I left the aviation industry however I do hold concerns for my colleagues still there.
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 03:59
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Might be a little more complicated than that, considering some may need to travel interstate or overseas for cyclic OPCs. Are cyclics considered as an essential need to travel?
According to this thread, Emirates have closed their training centre and the CAA have given everyone 4 months of currency on their licence.


Emirates about to ground A380 ops
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 04:36
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WA just closed it borders. Domestic air travel is over.
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https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...ds-airbus-a380

And the AFL are about to suspend the season!
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https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...ds-airbus-a380

And the AFL are about to suspend the season!

You’re right, there are some upsides 😉
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 08:21
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WA just closed it borders. Domestic air travel is over.

really pointless TBH - there's little evidence that such things work - the virus is already there
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really pointless TBH - there's little evidence that such things work - the virus is already there
What are these graphs for China telling us after they went under lockdown? https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/china/
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 08:52
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TAS, NT and now SA to shut borders. Goodbye domestic travel
AJ to announce at the Town Hall hookup tomorrow JQ shutdown from 1/4 and QF only flying extremely limited Mel Syd sectors?

cant be far off as I currently await my letter of stand down
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 08:54
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Originally Posted by SOPS
WA just closed it borders. Domestic air travel is over.
Why would domestic air travel be over?

Would this closure of state borders mean QF will stand down even more employees??? I wasn't worried before as I am one of the lucky few who are still needed, but I am a little worried now.
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 09:02
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Originally Posted by f1yhigh
Why would domestic air travel be over?

Would this closure of state borders mean QF will stand down even more employees??? I wasn't worried before as I am one of the lucky few who are still needed, but I am a little worried now.
Well, a few have shut borders and probably more to come) so who is really going to fly??
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Not yet SOPS........
Today's advice was 'advance notice'.

W.A. Borders to be closed at 1330hrs WST on Tuesday, 24th. The WA Gummint has yet to mention what happens to the various trucks and rail which supply food and fuel and etc etc.....

'Interesting Times'......and......the AFL is now 'ORF' until the end of May!!!!
Bugger!!!!!

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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 09:09
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I watched the press conference, and the premier said all RPT canceled, only direct charters for mine sites with ‘critical crew’ to manage the shutdown/storage’s.
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 09:19
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I believe it's a huge mistake to hammer home the last nail in the coffin, Hysteria has now overtaken society, the virus won't have anywhere near the devistating lasting Impact panic & hysteria will! RIP common sense!
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I believe it's a huge mistake to hammer home the last nail in the coffin, Hysteria has now overtaken society, the virus won't have anywhere near the devistating lasting Impact panic & hysteria will! RIP common sense!
Honestly, this! ^
I am also appalled by the lack of cooperation from financial institutions.
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 09:47
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NO MACHTUCK, YOU ARE UTTERLY WRONG. The police and emergency services have already told governments that if/when they catch Coronavirus it is a workers compensation event, NOT a “take sick leave” event. This is because, like healthcare workers, it is deemed they caught it in the course of their employment.

I assume petrol tanker drivers and supermarket logistics people and other necessary workers will do likewise. What that means is that if the Medical system is overwhelmed, you may lose your energy, food and utilities (water, sewerage, electricity) services because nobody is going to risk their lives to go to work if they have no prospect of medical assistance. If that happens millions will die in the chaos and lawlessness that follows.

Close pubs, clubs, schools and industry. What matters is food clothing shelter energy. Keep the medical system working to keep that happening.

The airline industry and retirees like me are, sadly, expendable.
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Machtuk: Hysteria and panic, as you call it, isn’t a lasting condition as you claim. Death, on the other hand...

Italy instituted lockdown on 9 Mar when they had 322 cases. We currently are where they were on 25 Feb. If Australia locks down we avoid the magnitude of disaster Italy is currently trying to endure. If we don't lockdown, we get the same result.
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 09:56
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Mortgages for those stood down need to be frozen indefinitely. Credit card rates need to be cut to mortgage rates. The government is underwriting the banks, the banks need to do their bit. Freezing mortgages would support the property market so that at the end of this, the country is not littered with foreclosed homes. Middle class Australia need to be able to preserve their homes so the recovery can be quick. Australia is not like The USA, you cannot walk away when foreclosed, the bank will chase you into bankruptcy. Bankruptcy and foreclosure protection is needed so people won’t be thrown out of their houses. The welfare system will not cope

Time to issue war bonds as well maybe to fund welfare to those in need.
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 10:00
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and the premier said all RPT cancelled, only direct charters for mine sites with ‘critical crew’ to manage the shutdown/storage’s.
I did wonder when sitting in a 100 seat jet flying to a mine site would be deemed as undesireable as sitting in the fresh air at Bondi beach. Or going to your local pub, cafe etc. So are the mines going into care and maintenance?
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 10:00
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This is changing by the hour, but it would be reasonable to think that QLD, NSW, VIC will all announce border restrictions unless there is a marked change in the infection rate which is very unlikely, given all this should have been done a week ago.

Accept that airlines will not operate routine domestic passenger flights for a period until there is clear evidence that the pandemic is on the downside of the curve. At lease a month and probably more. Another 3-6 months to get up and running.

Of the 3 large domestic carriers, 2 (QF+JQ) will probably survive in a very different form for the forseeable future. The third airline (VA) will need a miracle to survive this, but time will tell how it all ends up.
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 10:01
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Originally Posted by machtuk
I believe it's a huge mistake to hammer home the last nail in the coffin, Hysteria has now overtaken society, the virus won't have anywhere near the devistating lasting Impact panic & hysteria will! RIP common sense!

There is no vaccine, there is no medical treatment that cures or stops the virus. Isolation is the only known effective action

It worked in China & in Korea and its slowing the spread in places like the Singapore, UK and Germany - what don't you understand?

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