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Qantas stand down 20,000 employees till end of May

Old 25th Mar 2020, 00:42
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Where does it say they must use the seniority system to ration the flying?
All flying in Qantas is allocated by seniority. There is no such thing as rationed flying in our contract.
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Old 25th Mar 2020, 00:49
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Well there is. It's called minimum divisor / guarantee.

Perhaps you could use your retired wisdom to explain to us how everything comes back online?
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Old 25th Mar 2020, 02:46
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Originally Posted by normanton
Well there is. It's called minimum divisor / guarantee.

Perhaps you could use your retired wisdom to explain to us how everything comes back online?
I have no idea I am replying to the dribble that you post.
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Old 25th Mar 2020, 08:18
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"here is no such thing as rationed flying in our contract."

That's true but all contracts are rather meaningless pieces of paper in the current situation

If necessary the Company will declare Force Majeure or just go into administration
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Old 25th Mar 2020, 12:43
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$1bn loan sends Qantas shares soaring

A $1.05bn loan secured by Qantas to help the airline see through the coronavirus crisis has sent its share price soaring, closing up 26 per cent at $3.27.

Provided by 10 local and offshore lenders including Australia’s big four banks, the loan was made against seven near new Boeing 787-9 aircraft for which Qantas paid cash.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...7ec407e5d940c?
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Old 25th Mar 2020, 14:44
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"Force Majeure, is not mentioned in the contract, so it can’t be declared."

just try them.................
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 00:44
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Agree - Asturia or whoever you are; bugger off
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 03:21
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I don’t think anyone wants to be flying 160 hour rosters whilst others on the fleet are on stand down. I’m sure there is a way that we can ensure that where there is flying to be done on a fleet that it is shared as much as possible. I’d be happy to fly half a roster if it meant everyone got half a roster.

Of course for that to happen it means that we need to be doing half the flying and that’s still a fair way away. It also means that A330 pilots may be getting half a roster whilst the 747 pilots remain stood down. That’s not a great outcome either.

Full credit to the managers who have to work through this particular bun fight!
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 03:27
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I'd seriously consider a part time or casual option to spread work amongst the pilot group when flying returns so we can all have a basic income of some sort.

Now is not the time to be greedy people, if some go full roster others will get nothing. Think about your friends and coworkers. I'm okay with that and I hope it is offered to us.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 03:43
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Originally Posted by directimped
I'd seriously consider a part time or casual option to spread work amongst the pilot group when flying returns so we can all have a basic income of some sort.

Now is not the time to be greedy people, if some go full roster others will get nothing. Think about your friends and coworkers. I'm okay with that and I hope it is offered to us.
Great Post. Hopefully flexi lines or some such is how flying is ramped back up as demand comes back.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 04:37
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https://omny.fm/shows/the-alan-jones...rrah-on-qantas

This is very very good.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 04:43
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Originally Posted by Keg
I don’t think anyone wants to be flying 160 hour rosters whilst others on the fleet are on stand down. I’m sure there is a way that we can ensure that where there is flying to be done on a fleet that it is shared as much as possible. I’d be happy to fly half a roster if it meant everyone got half a roster.

Of course for that to happen it means that we need to be doing half the flying and that’s still a fair way away. It also means that A330 pilots may be getting half a roster whilst the 747 pilots remain stood down. That’s not a great outcome either.

Full credit to the managers who have to work through this particular bun fight!
Wholeheartedly agree, this will be difficult to work out but can be done so everyone gets something.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 04:49
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Absolutely brilliant
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 08:01
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Looks like a large lot took the Woolworths option of redeployment. 3000 off to WOW.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 08:12
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Alan Jones. What a d!ckhead.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 08:47
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Originally Posted by Led Zeppelin
Agree - Asturia or whoever you are; bugger off

Thank you Sir or Madam for your kind words............... I wish you well in your future career
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 10:25
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Alan Jones. What a d!ckhead.
Noted “expert at everything” Alan Jones, who until just last week was still spruiking the debunked “herd immunity” theory and was downplaying the pandemic as “hysteria” and “nonsense” a few weeks ago.

After going onto his FB page to read what he had written I’ve noticed he writes very short sentences and paragraphs loaded with very emotional language for people who obviously don’t think too hard about anything.

Alan Jones has no experience or skill in anything apart from his own big mouth and should be listened to by no one with a brain.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 12:32
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Unless you want to win the Bledisloe.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 20:13
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Jones has a track record in many areas, including the law. Wikipedia provides an insight into the type of person he is.

His broadcasting has frequently got him into trouble.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 23:57
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Qantas has told some 20,000 employees that they will not be eligible for paid sick leave — leaving staff who may have been exposed to coronavirus in financial peril.
According to Qantas' own FAQ:
Originally Posted by Qantas
Sick/carer's leave will not apply during any period of stand down, so you will continue to be stood down and will not be entitled to any sick/carer's leave payments.
But a Qantas spokesman said it wasn't possible for employees to take sick leave from work when there was no work. "Employees can access their annual leave and have early access to future annual leave and long-service leave if they have leave accrued," he said.
Am I missing something? You can't take Sick leave, to be absent from work, as there is no work. But you are allowed to take Annual leave to absent yourself from work, even when there is no work.
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