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Jetstar flight making an emergency landing at Mildura

Old 18th Mar 2020, 07:33
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Mach

Really???? Mate someone disagrees with your opinion (note no-one got personal, only the ball was played) and you accuse one guy of being "bothered" by you, and you accuse me of being hurt?????? Really. You expressed an opinion about facilities being the most important priority - people disagree and you have no comeback but to say one guy's bothered and another guy's hurt?????? Come on mate - play the ball, counter the opinions.

For you and anyone else with arrogant "jesus I'm the legend" statements like "when you have 25,000 hours heavy jet feel free to give me advice" - counter the argument, counter it all you want, but play the ball and not the man. Jesus, 25,000 hours heavy jet and without an FMS reference getting the aircraft on the ground at Mildura is a huge workload????? Good grief.

Morno - good points - one day the emergency might be point and shoot, other days it may be a more robust process. Without knowing whether a fire in the cargo hold warning is real or false, most likely this case here, point and shoot and stuff Mach Tuck's marshaller, airstairs and pretty little coffee shop.
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 09:07
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Originally Posted by Trevor the lover View Post
Mach

Really???? Mate someone disagrees with your opinion (note no-one got personal, only the ball was played) and you accuse one guy of being "bothered" by you, and you accuse me of being hurt?????? Really. You expressed an opinion about facilities being the most important priority - people disagree and you have no comeback but to say one guy's bothered and another guy's hurt?????? Come on mate - play the ball, counter the opinions.

For you and anyone else with arrogant "jesus I'm the legend" statements like "when you have 25,000 hours heavy jet feel free to give me advice" - counter the argument, counter it all you want, but play the ball and not the man. Jesus, 25,000 hours heavy jet and without an FMS reference getting the aircraft on the ground at Mildura is a huge workload????? Good grief.

Morno - good points - one day the emergency might be point and shoot, other days it may be a more robust process. Without knowing whether a fire in the cargo hold warning is real or false, most likely this case here, point and shoot and stuff Mach Tuck's marshaller, airstairs and pretty little coffee shop.
gee you truly are hurting aren't you? Sad but hey entertaining -
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 09:25
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Gotta love pilots, they can argue about anything.
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Old 18th Mar 2020, 10:45
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Completely agree.



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Old 18th Mar 2020, 11:43
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They may as well leave it parked there, because pretty soon they will be running out of parking space at YMEL come Friday.
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 00:03
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So much d1ck waving FFS...

Nice work to the crew - Bet the 18 172s in the circuit got a rude shock!!

Those speaking of toilet paper -I’m sure the crew would have made some good use of any spare!

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Old 19th Mar 2020, 02:19
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pretty soon they will be running out of parking space at YMEL
Hmm, I’d love to see a jet go into YMEL. It must have had a serious upgrade since I last flew into there.
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 02:41
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Status of the alarm

Was the alarm found to be false or is the source of the smoke/fire known?
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 05:29
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https://7news.com.au/news/aviation/j...-fire-c-749139

> Flight JQ660 departed Sydney just before 10.30am and was almost two hours into its journey when an indicator light suggested there was an “incident” in the cargo hold, a Jetstar spokesman said
He said early reports that a fire was detected in the cargo hold were incorrect

“(The flight) was diverted to Mildura as a precaution,” he said.
So yeah looks like not a fire. Detector or instrumentation problem then.
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 05:39
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Originally Posted by dodo whirlygig View Post
Hmm, I’d love to see a jet go into YMEL. It must have had a serious upgrade since I last flew into there.
The Main runway at YMEL 4/22 was still a 900 metre (2,900 feet) grass strip this morning. A shade under the minimum runway lengths shown in the A320 manual landing chart which starts around the 4,000 foot mark. For LDW starting around 22,000kg.

Is it possible the other poster meant to write YMML?
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 06:49
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edit : Bleh, disregard.

Well done to the crew. Middle of an AYQ is not the place i'd like to be on fire. False indication or not.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 20:48
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Guys, there seems to be a great deal of ego bashing going on. When things go wrong, most manufacturers´ Flight Crew Training Manuals somewhere state AVIATE, NAVIGATE, COMMUNICATE. And that is the order of the day.
Im not aware of the airports Down Under, but have flown N/S in the Americas and part of Europe most of my life. 11000 hrs in airline cockpits from F28 to 742,and some more in private jets. Your SOPs, are a great guidance, just under your QRHs.and non normal checklists.
But when things deteriorate and you have no clear idea of what is really going on, get it on the ground in one piece somewhere and have everyone walk away alive. That is your duty. To your pax, and crew. If the decision was flawed, or could have been improved, it can be argued into the ground, but your pax and your neck are grateful. Did Sully have time to go through the SOPs or make debated choices ? Not knowing the outcome which one of us would have gone for the ditching ? I think the Jetstar crew did their job to the best of their knowledge given the time constraints and a possibility that the aircraft was probably facing the worst enemy a pilot has to face: fire on board.
They were there, not the rest of us.
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Old 21st Mar 2020, 23:38
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........For LDW starting around 22,000kg.
That's a laugh - Given the empty weight of the average A320 is somewhat over 40,000 kg
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 00:48
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They were there, not the rest of us.
exactly.

I was flying at the time and heard the crew's initial mayday call on center. You could tell immediately in his voice they believed they were in trouble and it was a genuine fire.

Hope i'm never in the same situation. Great job done by them.
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 07:58
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It’s always a genuine fire until proved otherwise - speaking as someone who has had the real thing, even in a lowly C172.
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Old 22nd Mar 2020, 21:08
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Flight JQ660 departed Sydney just before 10.30am and was almost two hours into its journey when an indicator light suggested there was an “incident” in the cargo hold, a Jetstar spokesman said
He said early reports that a fire was detected in the cargo hold were incorrect.


The only ‘indicator light’ for the cargo hold I am aware of is the fire light OR the cargo door light itself. If there WAS a light as mentioned, it has to be one of those. The door one would be pretty easy to ascertain if it was false or not..... the other one not so much.

The only other possibility is a DG’s incident in which the company became aware of a potential DG loaded on board and alerted the crew. However there is no light for this scenario.

Either way, the crew landed safely with no further event. Well done.
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