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Old 15th Mar 2020, 05:59
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Where is your advice from...some one on Facebook? Here is the real advice from the authorities...
The advice from Australia's health authorities to shoppers spooked by endless empty supermarket shelves and images of overflowing trolleys is to have a few days worth of food - but no more.

Australia's chief medical officer Brendan Murphy on Sunday called for 'sensible' purchasing of necessities in the wake of self-isolation fears, as supermarkets across the country struggle to restock.

"For most people we don't want to encourage major panic buying at the moment," he told ABC's Insiders program on Sunday morning.


"We've seen that with the supermarket chains. But I think it is probably sensible to have a few days of supply."
The Victorian Chief Medical officer was out telling everyone to have two weeks supply. He is now retracting that statement to a few days of supply now.

You tell people two weeks supply they will go for two months. Tell them a few days then they will stockpile for two weeks. I don’t know how the Australian Brain works.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 06:01
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Preventing community spread is a far more effective measure than closing borders. That is what China focussed on in the Wuhan area and the results have been excellent
You need both measures.

But closing schools, mass transit, factories affect far more people than closing the airline industry. It will need to get a lot worse before that is politically acceptable.
However we will almost certainly get there and I expect very long Easter school holidays.

this is surprising politicians also. On Thursday that Vic Premier still thought he had a car race.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 06:06
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Can anyone confirm if the travel restrictions apply to crew? The NZ restrictions specifically exempt aircrew.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 06:18
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Transition Layer: Dr Brett Sutton Victoria's Chief Health Minister today (15 March) recommended a 2 week supply of food and a 2 month supply of prescription medication. Harvey Norman and the Good Guys have sold out of freezers hence the run on frozen food.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 06:39
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QF and JQ now letting all customers cancel all domestic and international flights for flight vouchers for travel until end of May. I imagine this will give them a good idea of the right network size for the next few months.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 06:41
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So can aircrew disregard the self isolate laws?

Big fine but it’s ok if you are aircrew and are immune to Corona Virus...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-...elled/12054306
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 06:49
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Aircrew will not have the self isolation rules apply, but it’s sort of a moot point because I don’t think there will be many planes at all flying in and out over the next 2 months..
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 06:52
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Angle of Attack beat me to it. We are entering a strange new world. You won’t have to worry about if air crew need to isolate, you won’t be flying anywhere.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 06:53
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So can aircrew disregard the self isolate laws?
Disregard might be slightly strong but essentially....yes.
This isn’t about preventing the virus from coming to Australia.
This is about controlling the rate at which case numbers increase. By lowering the rate there is greater prospect of the health system being able to provide top notch care for each serious case as they come in. If we can do that, less people will die.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 06:58
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Originally Posted by J.O.
Preventing community spread is a far more effective measure than closing borders. That is what China focussed on in the Wuhan area and the results have been excellent.
It astounds me that anybody believes the propaganda coming out of China at the moment.

​"Wuhan city, ground zero of the new coronavirus outbreak, reported five new cases on Friday, the second day in a row the tally has been less than 10, while no locally transmitted infections were reported in the rest of the country."

All back to normal. Nothing to see here!

Do you really believe that??

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Old 15th Mar 2020, 07:11
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It astounds me that anybody believes the propaganda coming out of China at the moment.

Do you really believe that??
Well do you believe the South Koreans?:

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...y/south-korea/

The Singaporeans?:

https://www.pharmaceutical-technolog...conomy-travel/

Evidence that strict control measures reduce the spread of the virus.

You're right in saying you can't trust the numbers coming out of China, but there's tangible evidence on the ground that the virus transmission numbers are on the decline. The temporary hospitals in Wuhan have all closed, the country is sending excess medical staff to Italy, factories and other businesses are re-starting production. Of course it only happened after 7 weeks of lock down in Hubei province. But that brutal measure seems to have worked
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 07:19
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Let’s just hope ppl listen, self isolate. Those who were going to travel over seas I hope they decide to fly within Australia. All our Jobs depend on that our pockets are only so deep before jobs start being affected.
I will as long as the greedy airlines give me a credit on my domestic travel for my O/S vacation - I do not want a refund just a credit to use for my family and not to go to Sydney as my current flights are.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 07:26
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China is just at a point where they can’t keep factories closed anymore. Time to roll he dice.

Only countries that have it under controls are Hong Kong, Singapore and Taiwan. I believe South Korea are all over the testing.

Another issue we have is winter is on its way and the virus likes the cold. It will go rampant in Melbourne, then onto Syd. I can see domestic flights being grounded as well.

Pretty scary.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 07:44
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Originally Posted by Bend alot
I will as long as the greedy airlines give me a credit on my domestic travel for my O/S vacation - I do not want a refund just a credit to use for my family and not to go to Sydney as my current flights are.
Good luck. Qantas left us stranded in Japan. Flights cancelled. We tried to get on another flight. As we flew on FF points and didn't have enough points to change to a different carrier sorry no flights for you. Plus we loose our points as we had started our trip.

Tried to get through again later after buying points but after a day nothing from Qantas so had to buy flights.

Like I said good luck.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 07:48
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I’m surprised so many on here seem so surprised. Did you not see the pictures of 300+ aircraft parked on aprons and taxiways at HKIA 3-4 weeks ago?? More since then...
Traffic numbers have gone from almost 1250 per day to less than 400. Almost exclusively cargo/Bizjet.
You didn’t think it would end up happening downunder as well?
Aussies and Kiwis are becoming more insular than the Yanks if that’s the case.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 08:02
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I’ve also been surprised at all the aloof offhand comments regarding it’s no worse than a cold etc etc, It was obvious when China took those extreme precautions that this will turn into a bloodbath economically. I think it’s human nature, unless it’s affecting right in your face at the current time we tend to overlook or downplay it. I think you will find there will be pretty much no international flights except for a feeder trickle over the next 90 days at least, and domestic will probably crash by 80-90 % once the full lockdown comes into place. The timing is pretty horrendous though with Winter coming so 5-6 months of a shutdown is not impossible. There is going to be massive global shifts and consolidation in the Airline Industry too.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 08:09
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Be very interesting to see what happens in China as they reopen.

epidemiologists have stated the epidemic will burn itself out once ~ 50% of us have been infected and are immune. This is heard immunity.

China has 80,000 cases of 1.47 billion people
= 0.006% of population. So zero heard immunity.

OK, so allow that they only diagnosed 8% of cases and there were many asymptomatic people never tested and never diagnosed
= 1,000,000 actual cases
= 0.07% of population

Based on these figures, it should run rampant as China reopens. Yet (so far) that is not happening according to business associates in Beijing and Shanghai.

it is all very odd.

if it doesn’t take off, then maybe most of the population were infected without getting sick.

We will need blood tests on large sections of the population to answer that. But maybe the true incidence is much much higher, and the % of serious cases & deaths is much much lower.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 08:09
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100 odd new cases in the last few days indicates the horse is halfway out the gate and down the driveway.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 08:34
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https://www.covid19data.com.au/

Good site for Australia

It took many weeks to get first 100 cases. That was 4 days ago.
it then took 3 days to get next 100
Then just one day for next 50




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Old 15th Mar 2020, 08:48
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Originally Posted by slats11
https://www.covid19data.com.au/

Good site for Australia

It took many weeks to get first 100 cases. That was 4 days ago.
it then took 3 days to get next 100
Then just one day for next 50

good world site, not sure if already posted. Watch out for the exponential growth.. the next week will be telling.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
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