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QANTAS to ground 8 A380

Old 9th Mar 2020, 23:08
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QANTAS to ground 8 A380

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Old 9th Mar 2020, 23:51
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I wonder where they will park them. Avalon?
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 00:00
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WOW that's a lot of pilots. What happens to them? I Cant see Joyce happy to pay them to sit around doing nothing for 6 months? Tough times for all.
Bring on this bloody vaccine!
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 00:20
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WOW that's a lot of pilots. What happens to them? I Cant see Joyce happy to pay them to sit around doing nothing for 6 months? Tough times for all.
Bring on this bloody vaccine!
Lots of annual and long service leave to exhaust over the next 6 months.
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 01:31
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The problem with pilots and everyone else who become temporary unemployed in burning up their accrued leave is that when things improve no one will be able to take holidays because they will have no leave. So the whole airline and travel industry will still have an ongoing long term problem.

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Old 10th Mar 2020, 02:03
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If true, that would leave only 4 380's in service would it not.....? Interesting to see which routes are dropped.
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 02:17
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2 are in for maintenance/refit so it leaves just 2 flying!
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 02:18
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A lot of pain for people as overtime and allowances evaporate. Redundancies seem like overkill at least for a company that is already structurally understaffed and plenty of cash.

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The problem with pilots and everyone else who become temporary unemployed in burning up their accrued leave is that when things improve no one will be able to take holidays because they will have no leave.
They won’t burn *all* of it unless they choose to. Plenty of employees within Qantas have over a year of banked annual leave and long service with no intention of taking it. It’s a second super fund that goes up 3% and gets cashed out when they retire.
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 02:29
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If true, that would leave only 4 380's in service would it not.....? Interesting to see which routes are dropped.
definitely true. Joyce had a press conference to confirm it. Now around 32 aircraft grounded. I heard also the Sydney London via Singapore flight will be re routed via Perth until end of April. At least I think that is what was said. Seems mostly Asian services affected.

Australia's largest airline has been heavily affected by the drop in demand for global and domestic travel and the latest capacity cut represents a 23 per cent drop in international seats compared to this time last year. The cuts leave all but two of its A380 aircraft grounded and will remain in place until mid-SeptemberThe airline also announced it would delay an order for Airbus A350 planes and it was cancelling plans for a $150 million off-market share buyback to preserve cash.

Instead of cutting entire routes, Qantas is using smaller aircraft where possible and also reducing the number of flights across its network. The reductions are equivalent to grounding 38 planes.



Domestic flights across Qantas and Jetstar will also be cut further until at least mid-September.

Qantas retains the ability to "go a lot deeper" with flight cuts, Mr Joyce said, as he sounded an ominous warning for the aviation sector in the face of the ongoing health crisis.

"We know we can ride this out. Not all airlines in the world will," he said



I think this will be survival of the fittest, and I think Qantas is one of the fittest and [most] dynamic airlines in the world."

The changes mean just two of the airline's fleet of 12 Airbus A380 jumbo planes will remain flying. The Sydney-London route will not stopover in Singapore after April 20, with the flight instead re-routed through Perth.

The launch of the Brisbane-Chicago route has been shelved until September, while Jetstar will suspend flights to Bangkok and cut flights to Japan and Vietnam by almost half.

Compared to the same time last year, the reductions represent a 31 per cent cut to Asian services, while the US (19 per cent) and the UK (17 per cent) are also affected as travel demand collapses amid the uncontained spread of the virus into Europe and the US.
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 04:45
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For the first time in a while it seems “right aircraft, right route” will work out.

Swapping out an expensive to run A380 with a relatively cheap to run B787 with the forward loads as they are makes sense and will ease some of the burden of this temporary crisis.
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 05:18
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Problem is they will make more money running the 787s full while the A380s are parked up.

I’d be surprised if they do reactivate them to be honest. It’d almost be better to run a second 787 and up-gauge when the 350s come, than bring back the big bird.

As much as I love paxing on it and all.
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 06:12
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LH have parked up the whole of the 380 fleet for now. Korean the same. Seems these birds have 'cooked their goose' for now. As for the future who knows.
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 06:24
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LH has asked German Govt for a bail-out unlike QF...
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 06:37
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I wonder what EK will end up doing?
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 08:08
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Exactly what I was thinking SOPS. I'd be feeling very nervous if I was there. That really is the biggest house of cards simply due to the number of 380s combined with the travelling public's growing aversion to Asia/Middle East.
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 08:34
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But also government owned and backed. Tough times everywhere
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 08:50
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EK will be QF’s go to aircraft.
Cheaper

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Old 10th Mar 2020, 09:15
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Korean the same


Korean are on the verge of bankruptcy.
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 10:12
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Korean are on the verge of bankruptcy.
Are Korean not government owned as well?
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Old 10th Mar 2020, 10:24
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EK will be perfectly fine. State owned as has already been said. Wouldn’t surprise me given their propensity to largesse that they announce something like “we are the only airline in the world that made profits during COVID-19”
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