QANTAS to ground 8 A380
If they institute 14 day bans everywhere, crewing and aircraft selection will be based on…...
"Anyone gotta crew that have done their 14 days?"
"I've got a 330 crew in Sydney."
"Right grab a 330 and stick it on LA"
"Anyone gotta crew that have done their 14 days?"
"I've got a 330 crew in Sydney."
"Right grab a 330 and stick it on LA"
so expect domestic air travel to all but stop altogether. Schools will be closed, shops will be closed and areas will be put under mandatory quarantine.
and as other countries see increases in numbers, they too will be subject to international travel bans.
so we ain’t seen nothing yet.
I believe there is an emergency board meeting happening now. This is going to get very ugly.
At the moment the goal is to stop the influx of new cases. All cases of COVID-19 either have an international origin or close contact with someone overseas. There are few or no cases of "community transmission", probably due to the warmer weather here compared to the northern hemisphere.
So the goal is to limit the number of cases arriving into Australia over the next month or two whilst the virus season ends in the north and before our own winter season starts. This is to ensure that hopefully all cases are contained and monitored prior to winter, and underlying virus holders aren't widespread before the seasons start. So as harsh as it sounds limiting international travel for the next 2-8 weeks or should isolate most inbound cases and as the numbers start to die off in the north the bans are lifted and inbound travel recommences.
But of course what to do with the excess crew? One, they all sit and burn leave for the next few months. Sounds great but cash flow is going to be shot with a lack of international travel. RIN? Where to? The fleet least needed is the most senior (A380) and the training cost will be immense. And once it's all over you need to train back up to their original positions. Redundancy? I think cash preservation is the key so I can't see a VR being offered. I think it's going to be a combination of things but it will probably come to a mandated LWOP rolled out amongst all crew. It will probably need, and get, union approval because I can't see even AIPA doing anything against the companies interests anytime soon.
My advice, make sure you've got some spare cash saved up over the next few months as you'll probably need it.
I wouldn't say that much. There's no evidence of this being spread anywhere via air travel. China, South Korea haven't stopped domestic air travel and they are starting to get the virus under control. You'd probably be better off banning public buses and train transport.
So the goal is to limit the number of cases arriving into Australia over the next month or two whilst the virus season ends in the north and before our own winter season starts. This is to ensure that hopefully all cases are contained and monitored prior to winter, and underlying virus holders aren't widespread before the seasons start. So as harsh as it sounds limiting international travel for the next 2-8 weeks or should isolate most inbound cases and as the numbers start to die off in the north the bans are lifted and inbound travel recommences.
But of course what to do with the excess crew? One, they all sit and burn leave for the next few months. Sounds great but cash flow is going to be shot with a lack of international travel. RIN? Where to? The fleet least needed is the most senior (A380) and the training cost will be immense. And once it's all over you need to train back up to their original positions. Redundancy? I think cash preservation is the key so I can't see a VR being offered. I think it's going to be a combination of things but it will probably come to a mandated LWOP rolled out amongst all crew. It will probably need, and get, union approval because I can't see even AIPA doing anything against the companies interests anytime soon.
My advice, make sure you've got some spare cash saved up over the next few months as you'll probably need it.
I wouldn't say that much. There's no evidence of this being spread anywhere via air travel. China, South Korea haven't stopped domestic air travel and they are starting to get the virus under control. You'd probably be better off banning public buses and train transport.
I think it's going to be a combination of things but it will probably come to a mandated LWOP rolled out amongst all crew. It will probably need, and get, union approval because I can't see even AIPA doing anything against the companies interests anytime soon.
At the moment the goal is to stop the influx of new cases. All cases of COVID-19 either have an international origin or close contact with someone overseas. There are few or no cases of "community transmission", probably due to the warmer weather here compared to the northern hemisphere.
I wouldn't say that much. There's no evidence of this being spread anywhere via air travel. China, South Korea haven't stopped domestic air travel and they are starting to get the virus under control. You'd probably be better off banning public buses and train transport.
I wouldn't say that much. There's no evidence of this being spread anywhere via air travel. China, South Korea haven't stopped domestic air travel and they are starting to get the virus under control. You'd probably be better off banning public buses and train transport.
This this threat may be more significant than anything that's come out of management offices. The airline's international operations are being shut down for a few months. The domestic ones curtailed. How are you going to pay all those crew at full divisor if you don't have any cash flow coming in? How long will the cash reserves last? Will AIPA want to be the union that didn't come to the party? Will the government come up with a bailout?
If the domestic market isn't too greatly affected then it is possible VA may be in the stronger position as they don't have a significant international operation and the required labour costs to service it.
Look at their numbers three or four weeks ago. They are where we are now. Now Italy has over 21,000 cases and 1,450 deaths. We ARE headed there.
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Small thread drift. American Airlines is grounding it’s entire wide body fleet and cutting 75 percent of International flights. This is going to be very ugly.
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With these travel restrictions and a lack of community transmission I doubt we'd be at Italy's position in three weeks. Three weeks ago they had 20 cases and it's now 21,000. But we had about 20 cases 3 weeks ago too, and now we only have 250. Warmer weather, more controllable borders, and a very good testing and monitoring regime implemented by our health services (hats off to those heroes). I think it may be more due to Italian incompetence and an elderly population. Again, South Korea has a similar population and greater initial numbers but has gotten the outbreak under control much quicker. Singapore too.
There is no evidence that warmer weather alters the rate of transmission. Qatar had a large number of cases.
State health ministers have reported shortages of reagents and kits used to conduct coronavirus tests in laboratories, as unprecedented demand for testing combines with limits on exports from other nations struggling to contain Covid-19.
Speaking at the council of Australian governments meeting on Friday, Australia’s chief medical officer, professor Brendan Murphy, said supply problems with coronavirus testing kits was a “temporary issue” but one that was hampering the scale of testing in Australia and across the globe.
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The West Australian health minister, Roger Cook, said a global shortage of personal protective equipment for health workers and reagents for Covid-19 tests had health department procurement staff scrambling around the clock to secure them. “That’s something of acute concern to us,” he said. There is currently a 72-hour testing backlog in the state.
The state’s deputy chief health officer, Robyn Lawrence, said new measures were being adopted to ensure only the highest-risk patients would be tested. Those wanting testing would need to bring evidence of overseas travel within the past 14 days, such as boarding passes, she said.
Speaking at the council of Australian governments meeting on Friday, Australia’s chief medical officer, professor Brendan Murphy, said supply problems with coronavirus testing kits was a “temporary issue” but one that was hampering the scale of testing in Australia and across the globe.
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The West Australian health minister, Roger Cook, said a global shortage of personal protective equipment for health workers and reagents for Covid-19 tests had health department procurement staff scrambling around the clock to secure them. “That’s something of acute concern to us,” he said. There is currently a 72-hour testing backlog in the state.
The state’s deputy chief health officer, Robyn Lawrence, said new measures were being adopted to ensure only the highest-risk patients would be tested. Those wanting testing would need to bring evidence of overseas travel within the past 14 days, such as boarding passes, she said.
Sorry to burst your bubble Dr, our testing and monitoring has been limited by reagent shortages (USA as well). We are observing positive test results rate limited by available resources. At least one State (WA) tests for only imported cases, not community spread.
There is no evidence that warmer weather alters the rate of transmission. Qatar had a large number of cases.
The Guardian Global shortage of Covid-19 test kits hits Australia as other nations limit exports Fri 13 Mar 2020 17.48 AEDT
There is no evidence that warmer weather alters the rate of transmission. Qatar had a large number of cases.
The Guardian Global shortage of Covid-19 test kits hits Australia as other nations limit exports Fri 13 Mar 2020 17.48 AEDT
Almost all cases are from overseas or close contact with overseas cases. Have there been some community transmission? Yes, but not a great number yet.
As for Qatar they get a flu season too, which correlates to their northern hemisphere winter. Although it may not be warm temperatures that kill the bug, it may be things like increased travel from nearby countries that have a flu season, a high transitory migrant population, more time spent indoors? Scientists aren't exactly sure but the rates to seem to correlate with them having their flu season concurrent with the northern hemispheres.
The US has done a blackflip on flight approval to the US from the UK and Ireland. Flights from the UK and Ireland to the US will be banned from Mon 16 March.
EK has suspended service on 37 routes.
EK has suspended service on 37 routes.
the PM was on tv at a press conference on the news tonight. If I heard correctly, they are predicting under a best case scenario, new cases will peak at 30,000 a day.
I suggest people organise their finances around that scenario. If you had planned a new car or an upgrade to the bathroom or kitchen, forget it. The effects on not only the airline industry but retail, hospitality, entertainment etc etc are going to be devastating.
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no, he did say 30k ad day, opposed to 300k per day without the measures take. Difficult to post a facebook link, I have split it up. About 1:35 in. Remove the space after the http and paste it in your browser.
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A lot more than the 380s will be grounded very shortly. Terrible for all concerned, take care everyone.
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I can’t see it being any different to the US airlines and Air NZ, pretty much all of the Long Haul fleet will be grounded and not for a month, probably 6 months. They will keep a few token flights to keep trade route open to UK and US but hardly any probably only equivalent to 3 or 4 787 aircraft. Domestic will be cut probably around 30% next month increasing each month as required to possibly 80% reduction and keeping token routes open at dramatically reduced frequency. Leave will be burnt first but it won’t be anywhere near enough, expect thousands of lay offs in office areas, probably a massive cull on Cabin Crew and other front line staff commensurate with the reduction in flying, especially the Casuals, and I’m guessing the are going to go to AIPA to agree on forced stints of LWOP for pilots, all over the board. Who knows whether there will be agreement but even with that there has to be layoffs in pilot ranks too. All training will cease with immediate effect.
Probably looking at halving staff costs while weathering the storm. The might have 2 billion in cash or so but this lumbering giant will be burning huge amounts of cash daily just to survive. There will be some assistance from the government, Airlines were even mentioned in the media today, but it will be token and not a lot in the scheme of things. No I don’t have inside info but I really can’t see it being anything different just looking at revenue and cashflow numbers, they need to take drastic action, in fact it could even be worse than my prediction.
Probably looking at halving staff costs while weathering the storm. The might have 2 billion in cash or so but this lumbering giant will be burning huge amounts of cash daily just to survive. There will be some assistance from the government, Airlines were even mentioned in the media today, but it will be token and not a lot in the scheme of things. No I don’t have inside info but I really can’t see it being anything different just looking at revenue and cashflow numbers, they need to take drastic action, in fact it could even be worse than my prediction.