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Old 26th Mar 2020, 01:47
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Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere
The concept of a seniority list is dead after this. How a long serving Captain (from either TT OR VANZ) can be given the boot while an insta cadet pilot keeps their position proves that. The so called ‘Group Seniority List’ isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.

Was it ever? Companies can always use the ‘extreme crisis’ card.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 03:06
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No guarantee for the future



The boss of Virgin Australia says the company is fighting to save jobs of 8000 workers stood down but can't guarantee the airline's future
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 03:08
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Originally Posted by John Citizen
Well, that was a given. Any business can say the same thing right now.

In the wise words of Dirty Harry, "If you want a guarantee, buy a toaster"
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 04:54
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Unhappy In the news now

Scurrah is talking to Coles to try to redeploy staff? It appears he has decided that VA has no need for Tiger pilots in the future.
https://australianaviation.com.au/20...D=*|MMERGEEM|*

Redeploy - "assign (employees, or resources) to a new place or task"
Redundant - "no longer in employment because there is no more work available"

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Old 26th Mar 2020, 05:52
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Sad times indeed. A few comments.

Virgin to restructure under a different name. This will get rid of Branson and his multi million dollar fee to use the Virgin name.

The A330 fleet may not fly again yet the pilots and SO's being kept on at the expense of the Tiger pilots.

Deborah Wardley is no longer the oldest female airline Captain in the world.

Hot rumour is QF raised $1,000,000,000 to take-over VA and TT when the s..t hits the fan in 2-3 months time.

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Old 26th Mar 2020, 06:16
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Hot rumour is QF raised $1,000,000 to take-over VA and TT when the s..t hits the fan in 2-3 months time.
Firstly, I suspect your missing a few 000's!
Secondly, I can't see the ACCC ever letting that happen!
Nice rumour though!
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 06:24
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Originally Posted by The Bullwinkle
Firstly, I suspect your missing a few 000's!
Secondly, I can't see the ACCC ever letting that happen!
Nice rumour though!
That’s one huge seniority list.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 06:32
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The A330 fleet in Virgin don’t have the SO position.🙄
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 06:39
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Every A330 Pilot should have a 737 rating already correct?
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 06:56
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Originally Posted by B772
Hot rumour is QF raised $1,000,000 to take-over VA and TT when the s..t hits the fan in 2-3 months time.
Like SQ was coming to save AN...wouldn't get your hopes up.

So...TT flying by VA pilots. Would the fact that they'll be operating under the VA AOC negate the 'no TT flying by VA crews' in the EBA? Genuine question.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 07:03
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Every A330 Pilot should have a 737 rating already correct?
Most would but not all. Some FO’s went from Ejet to A330.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 07:19
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Originally Posted by B772
Virgin to restructure under a different name. This will get rid of Branson and his multi million dollar fee to use the Virgin name.
How much was VA paying Branson annually for rights to the Virgin brand name? I know when it was Virgin Blue it was $1m per tail per yer. But as the airline grew and with the name change to Virgin Australia I believe that fee became much less. Just curious, not looking for an argument.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 07:51
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When British Airways took over British Caledonian in 1987, many BCAL Captains ended up back in the right hand seat. To quote what a BA pilot told me at the time "We screwed them."

Many years later I flew with an ex BCAL DC10 Captain who had been demoted and spent 10 years as a first officer before he was upgraded again.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 07:58
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Had a private email from Paragraph377

“ How’s the job hunting going? Ha

kind of says it all what type of fu*ktard this ****** truely is. Stay strong fellow virgin, VANZ, tiger boys and girls.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 08:21
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Originally Posted by B772

Hot rumour is QF raised $1,000,000 to take-over VA and TT when the s..t hits the fan in 2-3 months time.
That rumour is as likely as the numerous "SQ to take over VA" fake news articles that spurned over the past 5-6 years.

I do remember NZ offering AN to QF for a $1 before they sent in the administrators into AN.
Can't remember if NZ offered SQ the whole of AN for $1 before going to QF.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 08:44
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Originally Posted by bangbounceboeing
Had a private email from Paragraph377

“ How’s the job hunting going? Ha

kind of says it all what type of fu*ktard this ****** truely is. Stay strong fellow virgin, VANZ, tiger boys and girls.
Old message. I explained that away yesterday and also apologised for any offence. You happened to be one of 4 people trolling me before I responded in haste and anger. Funny how people like you are happy to give it out but then can’t handle the return serve.
So get over it mate.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 08:52
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Your just a dirty piece of sh*t Paragraph377.
Bet your just some sad lonely old git with no friends or family who has nothing better to do than sit on prune 24/7 waiting for the inevitable.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 08:57
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Your just a dirty piece of sh*t Paragraph377.
Bet your just some sad lonely old git with no friends or family who has nothing better to do than sit on prune 24/7 waiting for the inevitable.
You're* x2
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 09:11
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Originally Posted by bangbounceboeing
Your just a dirty piece of sh*t Paragraph377.
Bet your just some sad lonely old git with no friends or family who has nothing better to do than sit on prune 24/7 waiting for the inevitable.
There you go, your true colours shining through. Keep going mate, show your colleagues the caliber of pilot you really are. At least I’m man enough to apologise for all to see and apologise to people via PM. As I said, you started the abuse when I had said not a single word against any pilot. As for you, well......


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Old 26th Mar 2020, 09:37
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It should not just be Virgin pilots concerned about their employment. Any QF driver who is on the 380 or junior on the 330 should be working on a very solid, long term Plan B. Even if the world opened up again tomorrow, I postulate it will take a minimum of 2 years for international to return to pre Wu Flu levels.

My thoughts are with the guys and girls who have already been terminated. I fear this is only just the beginning. Anyone who is praying for someone else to lose their job is a complete knob. A vast number of us are only counting the days until we join you.
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