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Old 15th Mar 2020, 06:45
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From the outside, it confuses me that the own metal is parked when non-company aircraft is flying under the call.

I understand that not all ports may be services by VA metal, however those that can accommodate the aircraft, should be crewed albeit on a reduced schedule.

Very concerning and disturbing behaviour. Why not look after your own first?
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 08:23
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Originally Posted by Double_Clutch
Very concerning and disturbing behaviour. Why not look after your own first?
Quite obviously you were not born with too many brain cells. Don’t tell me there are still people at VA who believe in fairies, the easter Bunny and ‘staff loyalty’? Umm, CEO’s and Boards look after themselves first, shareholders second and as for staff..... well you are just a number, and an expendable one at that. It’s cheaper to contract the work out to QQ - SIMPLE. It’s about money and profits - SIMPLE. You are so funny Double_Clutch when you say ‘look after your own first’! Oh my Lordy, aren’t you in for a rude awakening!!



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Old 15th Mar 2020, 10:25
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Originally Posted by Paragraph377
Quite obviously you were not born with too many brain cells. Don’t tell me there are still people at VA who believe in fairies, the easter Bunny and ‘staff loyalty’? Umm, CEO’s and Boards look after themselves first, shareholders second and as for staff..... well you are just a number, and an expendable one at that. It’s cheaper to contract the work out to QQ - SIMPLE. It’s about money and profits - SIMPLE. You are so funny Double_Clutch when you say ‘look after your own first’! Oh my Lordy, aren’t you in for a rude awakening!!

Do us all a favour and self isolate for 14 days you Muppet.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 10:30
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Don’t tell me there are still people at VA who believe in fairies, the easter Bunny and ‘staff loyalty’?
Next thing you’ll be telling us there’s no such thing as Santa Claus!
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 11:08
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With all the pseudo border closures it’s sadly looking like VA may be in difficulty and yet the keyboard ghouls and zombies here are bitching about the most trivial of nonsense.

Id like to see the government help keep VA afloat and running without job losses. The last thing this country needs is a monopoly airline. Lobby your MPs to push for the survival of VA. At the end of the day, it is still a pretty good airline and worthy of survival.

ps... I have zero connection with VA other than being a passenger on occasions.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 12:41
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Originally Posted by lucille
With all the pseudo border closures it’s sadly looking like VA may be in difficulty and yet the keyboard ghouls and zombies here are bitching about the most trivial of nonsense.

Id like to see the government help keep VA afloat and running without job losses. The last thing this country needs is a monopoly airline. Lobby your MPs to push for the survival of VA. At the end of the day, it is still a pretty good airline and worthy of survival.

ps... I have zero connection with VA other than being a passenger on occasions.
I appreciate your comments but honestly why should the government keep them afloat? Genuine question. Job losses are everywhere so what makes them special?
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 18:31
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Originally Posted by lucille
With all the pseudo border closures it’s sadly looking like VA may be in difficulty and yet the keyboard ghouls and zombies here are bitching about the most trivial of nonsense.

Id like to see the government help keep VA afloat and running without job losses. The last thing this country needs is a monopoly airline. Lobby your MPs to push for the survival of VA. At the end of the day, it is still a pretty good airline and worthy of survival.

ps... I have zero connection with VA other than being a passenger on occasions.

Sure, the government can prop up VA then they can prop up Cobham, Alliance, REX, Network, QLink, JQ and don’t forget the national carrier QF. What also will need propping up AFL, NRL basketball. Point is every major business will suffer with this virus.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 19:58
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Government won't allow an airline monopoly to exist.
VA is going to be in serious trouble with travel effectively halting due to Coronavirus. I expect there will be a bailout.
Might even be a good time to buy shares if you're brave.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 20:22
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Originally Posted by bankrunner
Government won't allow an airline monopoly to exist.​​​​
There is no valid reason for not allowing a monopoly
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 20:32
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Originally Posted by bankrunner
Government won't allow an airline monopoly to exist.
VA is going to be in serious trouble with travel effectively halting due to Coronavirus. I expect there will be a bailout.
Might even be a good time to buy shares if you're brave.
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At this stage, this is the last thing on the governments mind. Their focus most likely on preserving the health system by limiting the exposure rate to Covid-19 that’s why the self isolation is being enforced, also to prevent emergency wards and medical staff from being overrun with cases. I wouldn’t want anything to happen to any airline but to think the government will bail VA out is naive. If they do it for one, have to do it for all.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 20:39
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NZ Government is setting up a massive fund to support Businesses & Employees (Not just Airlines) due to the travel restrictions. Surely Aussie can do the same.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12316806
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 21:05
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The same mob that let AN collapse are in power so, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 21:48
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VA failing would be bad for Qf as this would leave a void to be filled by an unknown. I reckon VA failing is the last thing Qf want so I doubt Qf will be giving VA a tough time this year. It’s in their interest to even help out VA by reducing competition. Better the known opponent than the unknown opponent.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 22:17
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Originally Posted by Buster Hyman
The same mob that let AN collapse are in power so, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
The same party - different people.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 23:14
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Originally Posted by Chris2303
The same party - different people.
Last time they claimed that they couldn't help AN because "... the Commonwealth isn't in the business of bailing out private companies" (JH)... EXCEPT, when it's a company that has the PM's brother on the Board.
Before anyone says it was a tiny company... irrelevant, it either gets involved or it doesn't, to ONLY do so on an occasion where a family member of the PM is involved is disingenuous in the extreme.
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 00:12
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Originally Posted by flamingmoe
sorry, but what was spiteful about it? Just saying that in my experience these days, 99% of pilots switch off the APU...when appropriate.
My experience is not this.

“They get air con in the village”

“pax paid for it”

“no”

These are the common reasons for not trying to save money.

My experience when the conditions are within parameters, the number of times an APU off arrival is done, maybe 5%.

SE taxi, seen it 5 times in the last year, and about the same previous years.

It would be interesting to see the actual data from the company. No doubt my experience could be skewed for an number of reasons.
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 02:41
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FFS. Enough already!
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 03:44
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After reading this thread, I would like you all to stop and take a deep breath. When I worked there, I was always impressed by the camaraderie and professionalism of the pilot group.
There's been a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth over the last few weeks, and for what benefit? Clearly none. Time to do what we were good at. Looking after each other. Take the time to check on your mates. Make the first move and go and talk to each other. There probably going to be plenty of opportunities away from work for to have a few beers or a barbie. Get together and look after each other. Don't forget about your partners and kids, they suffer when you do. There is going to be a lot of fat in the rosters. Make the most of the opportunity. Think about being ready if and when this turns around.
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 03:54
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PS saying “as they are majority domestic means they will be shielded from the worst of it and in an ok position is interesting”..... He either doesn’t have a good understanding of how this virus has progressed in countries globally or is trying to do a JB and talk complete BS out of his A** about how amazing an airline they are ...

Major corporates including NAB ANZ and many others have cancelled all domestic travel for employees so the domestic network will collapse very soon.... I think this will be a real turning point for VA. They need to cut domestic flights by at least 50% now! Having a flight every 4 hours to between the major capital cities will be more than adequate soon.

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Old 16th Mar 2020, 04:06
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“Major corporates” , mostly QF though. Saying WA, Gold Coast actually up on this time last year. Cut Cut when you have to, but cancelled OS holidays will still want to go somewhere. Remember Darwin’s theory. Wether VA has that quality remains to be seen.🤨
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